Thanks for trying GGG. After about 20k hours in POE 1, POE 2 just is not it.

Wondering what should they change for you to maybe enjoy or love the game as much as you love poe1?

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bachgaman#6713 wrote:

Well, actually, this was promised by the developer, and PoE players were genuinely expecting it. I’m not talking about those who started playing PoE after hearing about it from streamers a week before PoE 2's release. And yes, developers often do this. Dota became Dota 2, which later switched to a new engine without turning into a platformer. CS 1.6 became CS 2 after going through CS:GO, also without altering the essence of the game. The Civilization series doesn’t change its genre with every new part. There are plenty of examples like this. What are you even talking about?

Except it wasnt promised at all. There are also plenty of examples the other way around you know? Mass Effect 1 and 2 went similar change, Fallout 2 and 3 have literally nothing in common besides name, Risen 1 and 2 are also vastly different. Cherry picking is nice but doesnt take us anywhere. Now GGG will have 2 good games for vastly different audiences, they wont compete with themselves. You have seen how the game looks like months ago at this point and you still excpected something else. Thats 100% on you.

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VSwift#7054 wrote:

Guess what you're not getting it. See you!

Right we are not getting an ARPG but a dark souls game.

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VSwift#7054 wrote:

It's shocking these people can't accept change and developing a game series

They just want the same game with updated visuals.

Guess what you're not getting it. See you!

The thing is, people don’t have to accept change, they can just not play or support the game. The devs of some recent woke games have taken that approach and now have no players. I’m not saying GGG would ever say that, but it’s comical that players are suggesting that.

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

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bachgaman#6713 wrote:

Well, actually, this was promised by the developer, and PoE players were genuinely expecting it. I’m not talking about those who started playing PoE after hearing about it from streamers a week before PoE 2's release. And yes, developers often do this. Dota became Dota 2, which later switched to a new engine without turning into a platformer. CS 1.6 became CS 2 after going through CS:GO, also without altering the essence of the game. The Civilization series doesn’t change its genre with every new part. There are plenty of examples like this. What are you even talking about?

Except it wasnt promised at all. There are also plenty of examples the other way around you know? Mass Effect 1 and 2 went similar change, Fallout 2 and 3 have literally nothing in common besides name, Risen 1 and 2 are also vastly different. Cherry picking is nice but doesnt take us anywhere. Now GGG will have 2 good games for vastly different audiences, they wont compete with themselves. You have seen how the game looks like months ago at this point and you still excpected something else. Thats 100% on you.

What do you mean when you say it wasn’t promised?
How is cherry-picking relevant here? Did I claim that everyone does it this way? No, I didn’t. I pointed to successful examples of two massively popular online games (except Civ) whose developers respected the old fanbase that supported them for ten years. Meanwhile, you brought up three games, two of which are niche console titles, and the third suffered heavily from a similar transition. Fallout 1 and 2 were brilliant, Tactics was decent, but the franchise lost its way in trying to cater to consoles and the masses. Not the best comparison, honestly.

I wasn’t expecting anything different. I’m just disappointed that this direction will likely harm a game I love, that’s all. Do you think I’m here because I couldn’t handle the first boss? I didn’t even buy the starter pack, saying from the start that this wasn’t for me.

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Afura#6483 wrote:

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tsunamikun#0433 wrote:

We do not need a newer poe1.

Isn't that the whole point of making a second part of a game? Making it better than the previous one and developping it even further instead of making a complete new game?

As poe1 still exists and will get new content and leagues, no.

Poe2 was previously intended to be a poe1 expansion, so yes.

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Pestilence_PoE#6339 wrote:

The devs of some recent woke games have taken that approach and now have no players.

Which game has no players because of wokeness? And what the hell has woke again to do with this...You people are more obsessed with wokeness than people that are actually woke.

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bachgaman#6713 wrote:

Incoming wave of criticizing Dark Souls esports players with supernatural dodge reflexes in 3... 2... 1...

This one made me laugh. I didn't know I was a superhuman being for pressing the space bar!

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tsunamikun#0433 wrote:

I think they only way this will work out with both poe1 and poe2 alive is that the games stay vastly different. We do not need a newer poe1. Engine upgrades are trickling down anyways, and its the fix for those zoomzoom players.
Poe2 currently just needs more loot, specially at bosses. It feels wierd fighting a five minute fight to loot 1 blue and 50 gold.

I hope this is true but I have this nagging suspicion they're hoping POE2 takes off so they can put POE1 on life support.

I hope that I'm wrong. POE2 doesn't feel like something I can pour into like I did POE1; at least not so far. Ruthless just isn't my thing.

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

Its not "it" because it wasnt meant to be. You wanted newer poe1? For what? To kill the first one?

Well, actually, this was promised by the developer, and PoE players were genuinely expecting it. I’m not talking about those who started playing PoE after hearing about it from streamers a week before PoE 2's release. And yes, developers often do this. Dota became Dota 2, which later switched to a new engine without turning into a platformer. CS 1.6 became CS 2 after going through CS:GO, also without altering the essence of the game. The Civilization series doesn’t change its genre with every new part. There are plenty of examples like this. What are you even talking about?

I find it amazing how many people have been brainwashed to expecting there yearly sequel game for $60, same shiz just an "upgraded engine" graphics and a few extra features. If the developers want to make a very different game, then bravo to them, win or lose its a positive for the games industry which may hopefully inspire others to actually stop milking customers and make new games rather than the same thing over and over.