My opinion of PoE.

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Zeltak wrote:

The mad in this one. I understand that a person like yourself can get angry when someone breaks down the reality of the fact that it's not the game being too hard, it's you being too bad. Must suffer from some severe case of pride to not see the tunnel-visioning you have done in your OP.

The mad in me isn't about the discussion about the game. It's about your personal attack and insults at myself. If I am wrong then point it out as others have.
If you have an issue or a point to make about what I have said or done, discuss and advise not insult. You insult somebody, what do you expect in return?

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Your reply is extremely childish and exploded with emotional input, half of them had nothing to do with the paragraphs you quoted me on either. But your type of response, victimizing yourself, is exactly what I expected because you literally cannot see just how stupid you come off when you try to justify how you haven't progressed through a tiny portion of the game. Excuses such as "the Roah was maxxed out" when if you had actually taken your time to seek out information or just manage to play further, you would realize that only players in the same instance as yours affect mob difficulty.

Well that's why I put a question mark against it. I stated at the beginning that I was playing this game without reading too much about it. There are players out there who prefer to discover things for themselves and not read the walk thru cover to cover before playing.
I don't read walk thru's for games so I applied the same for this game. I can't see how that is wrong.

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By the way, just because you created this thread doesn't mean you "own" it. You have no moderation status here, telling disagreeing voices to "piss off" makes me question your age. When you decide to publicize your opinion, expect both people to agree and disagree with you, I'm the latter one, either deal with it properly or step down from the soap box.

"piss off" as in a response to somebody who insults. I expect people to agree and disagree with what I have said. Your the only one so far with the insults.

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You aren't giving feedback, what you are doing is essentially whining about the game being tough - when you have yet to reach level 10 on your own. It has nothing to do with how good or bad I'm, it has to do with you having absolutely no platform to base your feedback from (I'm talking about the gameplay part of your feedback, not your subjective opinion about graphics), when you can't even complete two acts of the game in the easiest difficulty.

Whining about the game being tough or saying that the game is tough? You choose to ignore my statements that I am enjoying the game and would pay for it if I had to in order to play the release. If I was whining about how tough the game was, do you think I would have uninstalled it and walked away by now with my tail between my legs? I said that it was much tough in the beginning? where did I say I didn't like that?

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I definitely want people to give advice to the game, but not from a player like yourself - the type who shy away from any form of challenge presented in a game and demands it to be "fixed". Please just leave and find something else to play if you are that ignorant to not realize that it's not the game's difficulty that is something wrong with, but you as a player - again you couldn't even reach level 10 on your own, and you question the game's difficulty instead of yourself? For real.

Well at least I tried to give my feedback on this game. For what ever reason I was granted a beta key, I felt I owed that much I guess. If my input isn't useful or welcome then that reflects back on myself for a poor choices of words or timing. At least I tried and was rewarded with the barrage of insults from somebody like you for my efforts. I thought the whole point of a beta release was for players to try and give feedback as best as they can. Guess insults from people like you await those who's feedback isn't up to scratch.
Obviously you are a moderator if it's up to you who's feedback is acceptable or not.

Admittedly I did not read the whole thread. But I think pretty much it all comes down to one thing. Not every game is for everyone. Don't get upset about it just move on.

Seriously a great number of people are here because they like the systems you say you do not like. That's just how it goes friend. The Dev's have already committed to these more complex systems so its clear they wish to make a game for people that are like them and want the more complex systems.

Its just how reality works. This game is not for someone with taste like yours.

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Asmodeous666 wrote:

Well at least I tried to give my feedback on this game. For what ever reason I was granted a beta key, I felt I owed that much I guess. If my input isn't useful or welcome then that reflects back on myself for a poor choices of words or timing. At least I tried and was rewarded with the barrage of insults from somebody like you for my efforts. I thought the whole point of a beta release was for players to try and give feedback as best as they can. Guess insults from people like you await those who's feedback isn't up to scratch.
Obviously you are a moderator if it's up to you who's feedback is acceptable or not.

Asmodeous,

It might just be that you're new to the internet, but getting personally attacked for posting your opinion is pretty standard on any internet message board. It's often refered to as the "Greater Internet Dickwad Theory."

As I said back on page 2, it is important to the game that opinions like yours are heard. Other people clearly have serious issues with you posting your opinion, but that shouldn't really concern you, it's their problem.

If you played the game up to level 10, and didn't find it to your liking, nobody is forcing you to keep playing. Obviously no single game can please every person on the planet, otherwise we would just have 1 game that everyone plays.

However, if you are interested in learning more about the game I would strongly suggest reading up on it here on the forums, there are several excellent posts about the internal mechanics of the game, how to plan out good character builds, what kind of items to look for, and so on.

It is unfortunate that to learn a good deal of the game's basic mechanics you need to look them up online isntead of learning about them in the game. Just last night there was someone in Ruthless difficulty (the 3rd hardest of the 4 difficulties) that said in general they had just then realized how support gems worked, and prior to that hadn't been linking them to any skills.

As said, the game is still in beta, there is a good deal of things yet to be added to the game, fortunately the game is being released as "free to play." This means that, yes, the game will be online only to play, but it also means that it will be getting continuous support from its developers. More things will be added, existing things will be refined, and everything will get better over time.

Hopefully you can stick around and keep playing :)

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auLansalot wrote:

Sounds to me like someone didn't play past level 10.

Support gems, overly complicated passive tree, barter system.... these are all good things to me.

I agree!
I'm tired of the oversimplified casual gamer approach.
If you take some time and focus and read, the skill tree and other items open up for you.
DO NOT SIMPLIFY FOR THE LAZY.

Well I guess this is the end of PoE for myself.

The issue is and pretty much always has been is latency.
The best I have ever seen is 310ms. The usual read is closer to 350-600ms. The past three times that I have played it has frequently spiked to 800-x,xxx ms. About a quarter of my characters deaths has been the same. Running along with clear area around then suddenly the game will jump back a screen or so with the resurrect button and several bad guys gloating over my dead character.
The pings are very similar to what I get to Battle.net. GGG's server must be next door.

I realise that it's an demographic issue. Perth Western australia is the most isolated city in the world and it reminds you of that everytime you try to play a game online.

I wish GGG the best with PoE. I look forward to reading a glowing review In PC powerplay mag.

GG GGG! (good game grinding gear games)

P.S. If you ever put in an Oceanic server, Let me know!

I'm actually a bit sad to hear you are leaving due to latency issues! I live in Bunbury WA (Just south of you) and I typically ping about 270-280. This seems to become more of an issue in later difficulties when the game becomes much more difficult. I too, like you, hope they add an Oceanic server!

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Asmodeous666 wrote:

The bad.

Graphics.

Skill map.

Perspective.

Barter system.

Bits of scrolls.

The ugly.

Online only game play.

Graphics - They're fine. Character models are better than Titan Quest, UI is much better as well. Titan quest did do well with textures for its time. If you've got a good computer and run on full specs with high resolution, PoE looks about as good as it should.
http://webguyunlimited.com/pixelperfectgaming/wp-content/gallery/path_of_exile_screenshots/path_of_exile_screenshot_06.jpg

Skill map - You're going to find yourself in a minority here. Most people love the skill map by the time they're into Act 2. I'm surprised whenever hear of anyone who doesn't like it. Yes it's complicated, but it really only APPEARS that way. I wouldn't say it's really all that complex. It just takes some searching to get a certain familiarity with it. You'll probably come around. Same with the skill gem system.

Perspective - First I've heard of someone complaining about the perspective in this way. I think the angle is just fine for me. Others are more concerned about being zoomed in too close.

Barter System - It's not really a barter system because things do have set buy/sell values and there's no real bargaining. That said, the system is awesome. Currency in ARPGs have always struggled with staying relevant. GGG wanted to have a currency system that felt genuinely valuable all the way through the game, and they also wanted to do away with useless expenditures like repairs, which add nothing to the fun of a game. I'd say they succeeded.

Bits of scrolls - Seems like such a minor gripe that I won't even respond to it.

Online-Only Gameplay - Since GGG has to make money and stop cheaters from ruining the game, this is the only option unless they were to go with Steam as their primary distributor, which many maintain is a good idea. As is planned for now, though, all the game's processing needs to be done on GGG's servers. To make an offline mode, that would let players have access to the processes of the games in their own computers. Doing this means, of course, that cheating is possible. Once you find a way to cheat offline, online will follow. Even Steam games do have problems with hacked items and cheaters in big games such as Dungeon Defenders. I hope you can let this one go and harbor no ill will against GGG for making the only choice they could reasonably make.

Oh please Asmodeous666 stop crying already. Are you a grown man or do just take all words on the Internet this emotionally?

You have re-used the word "insult" at least fifteen times, you are forcing yourself into this victimization role with the sole purpose of winning sympathy points from others.

You start off with your OP basically listing all the features that makes PoE unique from other Hack n' Slash games out there such as Torchlight or Diablo 3 and calling those same features bad. Then as an icing on the cake you question a game's difficulty when you can't even complete the single most easiest part of it.

I do not care what your reasoning are, if you can't reach level 10 on your own it's not the game having issues, it's you. The only reason I mention that part specifically is because you use it as an argument to question the game's difficulty. Again, you are the kind of influence which resulted in the dumbed down D3 version, no seriously, it is exactly that mentality. "Oh I couldn't do this so instead of seeking information on the forums or asking how to overcome this challenge or maybe just think on my own, I'm going to review this game and say it's too hard."

Yes, you are a bad player if you can progress through that small content, plain and simple - and yes I'm calling you out for it because you were stupid enough to use it as an argument in regards to the game itself.

Total joke.

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TheRabbit303 wrote:

It might just be that you're new to the internet, but getting personally attacked for posting your opinion is pretty standard on any internet message board. It's often refered to as the "Greater Internet Dickwad Theory."

Lay off the white-knighting please, you do this in literally every thread you enter.

Of course an overly-sensitive individual such as Asmodeous666 is going to perceive everything negative as personal insults but the fact of the matter is, when he uses his own situation (see the lvl 10 BS) as a platform to judge the game's difficulty, then he opens up for anyone to question his own player skill.

Thanks for the feedback, I think this thread has been derailed enough.

locked.