The simple truth about Poe1 and Poe2
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Btw it would be funny to see all the apologists here talk, if GGG somewhere in the future backtracked on the promise of mtx being usable in PoE 2. Not a promise just sth they said after all, you got what you bought, it's a different game hard to do etc heh.
Even funnier would be seeing them in the queue for refunds getting the same responses they give others now. Now I don't really want people to refund, I think PoE 2 will be good and for those disappointed with a split, GGG deserve at least a wait and see of how PoE 1 will be treated. I don't understand forum posters advocating against their own rights though, especially that it clearly falls under false advertising, at least here in the EU. Not a fan of Brussels personally, but they sure love stuff like this heh. |
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" [Removed by Support] Literally the only thing you have lost is PoE1 campaign, everything else will be in PoE2. Every mechanic, endgame, mtx etc was supposed to be shared anyway and it will be there in PoE2. So it would be the same game besides campaign. For the small cost of 10acts you gained whole new game and you can keep the old one. I really dont know what the whole fuss is about. Last edited by Chulainn_GGG#0000 on Aug 12, 2023, 5:55:42 PM
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" [Removed by Support] The mtx thing is the same as the 1 game, 2 campaigns thing. It is something they said, plans are not promises remember? (how about that as a stupid take btw). The only difference is the context, it's less likely to happen because of the insane backlash that would follow. The difference for you is that if it affected you, you would run for refund screaming murder, but if this other "plan" affects smb else, you are first to dismiss their claims. Also, you don't understand, it doesn't matter what was lost, what wasn't, if PoE 2 is 1000x better, or whether you know what the fuss is about or not. If smb can prove they were deceived by, for example, a big promotional event (advertising) and it affected their economic behaviour, this is false advertising as per EU law. So far this is exactly what some say, that they paid for PoE 1 to be fixed, updated with new engine and animations, expanded and without split community. They paid to support 1 game 2 campaigns, not 2 games, and that is all that you need to know, your opinion on how good or bad this will end is unnecessary. And no I don't care, I bought a supporter pack yesterday, the split is not a particular problem for me. I just think that people have a good basis for a refund here, that maybe GGG makes a mistake denying those, and the reason I post it is people like you who are first to deny other players refunds. Just funny, like I said, and easy to bring an example where your own advocating bites you hard. Last edited by Chulainn_GGG#0000 on Aug 12, 2023, 5:55:49 PM
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" They still can do the mtx split but they would lose more than they could gain, so on that account that would be just stupid to do but still 100% legal. It doesnt fall under false advertising since they didnt sell anything on that account, your feelings have nothing to do with it. You can even send email to your countries customer rights agency if you want and ask. Im still waiting for 1 good argument on why is it so bad to have those games split. We get more this way, no matter how much you try to deny it. Last edited by Chulainn_GGG#0000 on Aug 12, 2023, 6:03:21 PM
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" Yes they did, they sold supporter packs. Not skin packs, not add-ons, it's even mentioned right there that you fund PoE 2 among other things. It is a specific kind of funding, and could be easily proven to not be based just on the puny amount of digital stuff you get. What's even funnier, it doesn't even matter what they sell, it would be enough to show that there is a connection between deceiving advertising and economic behaviour (https://www.privacyshield.gov/ps/article?id=European-union-Trade-Promotion-and-Advertising) to have it as false advertising. There is proof of that in your own post, where you mention loosing more than they can gain on an mtx split, after they said they won't. If that statement about their future game is influencing sales, then so are the other ones, and the former will be obvious to everyone that spends a second checking it. [Removed by Support] I can even send an email to my countries consumer right agency if I want and ask, yes you also can even send an email to your countries consumer agency if you want and ask, if you're so bent on proving it and sure of what you claim, based on exactly nothing (I'd even say feelings heh). Don't forget to mail EU as well when you're at it, and don't forget to mention the AAA up to 8xAAA game price per unit, they will love it. What did I deny?[Removed by Support] I'm not discussing the split here, only people like you and their attitudes. Last edited by Chulainn_GGG#0000 on Aug 12, 2023, 6:08:11 PM
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You are discussing "what if's" not attitudes, and no its not false advertising. You can ask yourself via emial, [Removed by Support]
I care about what is, not what could be (and frankly its almost 0% chance it ever will). Last edited by Chulainn_GGG#0000 on Aug 12, 2023, 6:13:29 PM
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You sure cared enough to dismiss people paying tons of money supporting the game, after they were mislead about it, with 0 insight no less and just parroting smb else claim about customer agencies. It's about attitude, if same people asked me my opinion, I'd say don't refund and wait, give the games a chance, not a perfect world, leave your money because people refunding go against my interest of getting the best game possible etc. But I wouldn't deny them the right with claims like, hey it's a 480$ skin pack, you got what you paid for or other crap like that. Last edited by Chulainn_GGG#0000 on Aug 12, 2023, 6:14:26 PM
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And i Will because they lose nothing. They didnt provide a single valid reason for this kind of outrage. They get more!
It doesnt fall under false advertisment and i told you to send email if you want proof because no matter what i say you will try to dismiss it. They got exactly what they paid for. You made up scenerio that will never happen and try to defend your point on that front. Your fantasy makes people actually lose something while what we have now doesnt. There would be a reason to be upset in your made up world but now there is none. Poeple that complain for 7 years stright on this forum about everythng just found a new thing to complain about, thats all there is to it. You can check post history of the few people not happy with that change and you will see that im right. Last edited by kuciol#0426 on Aug 13, 2023, 4:42:46 AM
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" The job part is hard to balance. If the gameplay become tedious, hard and slow to kill mobs/bosses etc.. Then tedious burns people out fast. poe2 look more tedious than poe1 ever was for sure. 7 year olds like stuff based on phases. Your trying to play games from old memories past events that wont work with a game you play today and cause your reaction here |
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" You still don't understand. If I buy dog stickers from a dog shelter because they say they'll find me a husky - malamute hybrid, but then say I have to take 2 dogs instead, a malamute and husky, then I was mislead and can refund the damn stickers, irrespective of anyone on a dog forum telling me 2 dogs are more than 1. I wanted a single damn dog, can you understand? Or still not really. Btw, if your dog stickers are $60 to $480, you better keep your word heh. Yes it does fall under false advertisment as per EU law. You parrot the same thing for a 5th time or sth without adressing a single argument presented to you. All you can do is reduce an obvious rule of law into fantasy and made up, does murder stop being murder if not reported? Listen, I don't even think there was malicious intent from GGG, the guy said that he personally knew they had to split, that doesn't mean there was decision right there, that they weren't trying after that or sth. Still it is TECHNICALLY false advertising, even in USA it is accepted that deceptive advertising is about the effect on consumers, not the intent of advertisers. It is completly irrelevent whether it will happen or not, and yes it probably won't, because noone supporting wants to drag the company to institutions, everyone just wants a good game. So, in your head, the law is fantasy when people, out of goodwill toward the company, or for whatever reasons will not use that law against said company? Last edited by Rabarbar_Lichy#7553 on Aug 14, 2023, 5:12:37 AM
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