Name Shaming

Oh c`mon now, it`s actualy quite complicated to scam in this game.
If you fall for hc-sc-trading, some fusing-lottery, not reading what your mouse-over tells you or dropping ur shit on the ground, your just asking for it.
Some balance of reason.
You guys make it look like this game was all about griefers, besides loot-snatchin i`ve not ONCE encountered a scammer till now, but i also don`t tend to give my credit-card to complete strangers in real life aswell.

If you want to start some social-media-page (no expert on this) to report scammers -> have at it and just wait till your name pops up there cause you pissed someone of.

Try posting your medieval ideas on some other Developer/Publisher-Forums, like Blizz or Steam, etc. and see how long you will be able to post in the future (hint: not for long).
This is such a ridiculous discussion, probably a new highscore atop the troll-o-meter.


Just amazing.

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mkmaddage wrote:

I would then not get upset when the community, the mods, and the devs correct my mistake (the community perhaps less patiently, having to sit through so many upset threads from people who refuse to accept the game's particular perspective, and being unable to answer with finality and authority like a mod or dev) and I would understand that I have the choice to either learn to accept this element and understand it for what it is - as many people clearly do (the mods, the community, the devs) - or choose to play another game that lets me play the way I want.

But I'm a bad troll so my words have no meaning.

The thing is, griefers don't really care about people like you, they really just want to ruin the days of the gullible, the slow-witted, and the greedy. They're after the people who will flip their shit and rage quit the game after losing their level 60 HC character to a bandit PK scheme. The kinds of people who post in their farewell thread they will warn their friends that this game is nothing but a cesspool of griefers and scammers and they should stay away from it. The people who would say the mods are siding with the griefer by editing out the name or deleting the post.

Sure there are plenty of people who would just shrug and tell themselves "well that was stupid of me" or "lesson learned". It's probably why every closed name-and-shame thread doesn't generate a drama-splosion for weeks on end.

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gilrad wrote:

The thing is, griefers don't really care about people like you, they really just want to ruin the days of the gullible, the slow-witted, and the greedy. They're after the people who will flip their shit and rage quit the game after losing their level 60 HC character to a bandit PK scheme. The kinds of people who post in their farewell thread they will warn their friends that this game is nothing but a cesspool of griefers and scammers and they should stay away from it. The people who would say the mods are siding with the griefer by editing out the name or deleting the post.

I think those people fit into the category I was alluding to of 'not my sort of game - I'll play something else' or, more likely, people who a community of happy gamers wouldn't want around anyway (who would want someone around who shits all over you and the things you like?)

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Sure there are plenty of people who would just shrug and tell themselves "well that was stupid of me" or "lesson learned". It's probably why every closed name-and-shame thread doesn't generate a drama-splosion for weeks on end.

Not sure if sarcastic...

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Charan wrote:

So please understand that the exclusion of name-and-shame threads isn't because we condone the reprehensible acts of these scumbags. It's purely because we have no way of really knowing real accusations from false, and since this is the official forum for Path of Exile, it would be very inappropriate to allow unverified accusations to fly wild.

You have to admit though, having a policy that actively obfuscates potentially important information about griefers and scammers is functionally similar to promoting this activity.

I don't think I have to admit that at all. I think it's not at all equivalent. As the GGG staff have pointed out, you cannot scam someone in PoE if they use the trade interface and pay attention.

Naming-and-shaming tends to be used an awful lot to accuse people of things they didn't do, or accuse them of things that someone disapproves of but which aren't actually against the rules. And this can create all sorts of problems.

People don't lose a negative reputation just because the accusations against them were found to be false.

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Charan wrote:

I have encouraged people in the past to start third-party boards and sites for things like naming-and-shaming.

I'm not an expert in these things, but couldn't someone easily start a sub-reddit for this purpose?

PS - Charan is a kiwi lover

Not sure why we need an external site, just a different process than already exists. If we had a subforum where people when to post their evidence, and that evidence was not available for viewing until reviewed and accepted by GGG/Mods, then it would become open, would this not suffice. You say you do not have the resource, but aren't you already investigating support tickets that people submit on this topic. The only difference is that the submission would be done here, instead of email, and the results of verified scammers/botters/etc would be made public in a singular area.