New player(crucible) Shaper help

Thank you the explanation.

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With PB you only have 2,1k i.e 50% of that as you can't really recover the other half.

Does the life mastery node affect this? You count as low life while at 55% maximum health. or do i misunderstand something?

I am not sure on that one to be honest. Going by the wording i'd say you can recover back to 55% of your life with the mastery instead of 50%. But the 40% damage reduction only applies to the lower half i.e 50% of your life pool. They use the term "low life" for the recovery part but deliberately other terms like below half life for the others. GGG is usually very particular with this kind of stuff so if it doesn't say low life but lower half of your life that likely means it's not affected by the mastery that clearly refers to low life.

Either way, it doesn't really matter for the example. Even at 55% you'd wind up dead from the hit with PB while you'd survive without it. Bloodthirst also isn't particularly great as a support gem and you have nothing else to take advantage of the low life state. You are wasting 35% mana reservation and a mastery passive to get worse defenses and likely also worse damage as other support gems would easily outperform it. If you kick it out you can put herald of purity in it's place and remove war banner (should be replaced with dread banner since you use impale btw) from the arrogance setup and put it elsewhere to free up some life. Having Precision reserve life is enough.

shaper balls pene..no that sounds wrong

shaper has skills, that have resistance penetration, he also has a beam with powerful damage over time, which can only be countered by powerful regeneration and dodging

he has phases, where you have to hide in zana bubble and uhh, some people make a big deal out of the shaper slam for some reason

i dont know how OP ppl do it, but i spent time learning the fight and dodging it. I know sometimes there are people who have like 10k hp or ES or more and i cannot even fathom how they get there. or other guy gamereport on youtube who afks entire games content with zombies. i cant do that(its pretty cool tho)

i dont know if spell suppression would do enough because it only counts for hits and there are too many hits and the non-hit(DoT) beam

id say take your time. i spent a few leagues before i got all the way back to shaper. even now im making lots of theory-crafting

i still remember that sirus thread. it was the last time, that a build guide could actually be followed on a budget and i barely made it there. that was hella fun tho i could afk in delve mine with that peak life necromancer. now zombies would probably get one-shot and immediately after i would get like 10 explody fire balls wipe my face lol

best i could say is try to have good framerate and then enjoy practicing it

there is also this divine flesh and fourth vow you could try coupling with spell suppression. it may be good for theorycrafting if your goal was to specificially try to just tank shaper

other than that you want to avoid having maven in any fights, because she regenerates monsters. i thought i should mention that

thats all i can say and i think thats pretty fair, because anything beyond that is like handing you a free cake. not that i can do anything more, but im just saying lol

oh yeah i remember. some guy on twitch with 1 viewer, i think vashthalas, recommended this combination with eternal damnation amulet too i think

and cold damage taken as can also help

i would still recommend to just practice it and going by the wiki, since theorycrafting requires a bunch of time to make it work, but the option seems to be there

i have no idea how to counter the degen shaper beam however. some of the above items might help, but not those, that only work on hits

maybe ziz or ghazzy have some helpful videos out idk

i also checked your char and i dont know how that build works, but you can always swap melee splash for a dmg gem, if your setup allows it. i also carry an extra gem for my skeletons to swap for bosses

im not gonna comment on the petrified blood, that others are mentioning, but i forgot about the ground degen. im actually completely defenseless against those. they are still fun to dodge tho. adds to the action. unless they spawn directly in your zana bubble ಠ_ಠ

i have no idea how people can survive with petrified blood. its suicide. good luck with that one

im just gona dump this here, because it contains some info. i dont feel like reading through every single post to be up-to-date

In case you don't know about this (cause I saw you had a lot of 20/0% gems). Once a gem hits level 20, you can "vendor" it with a gemcutter prism. You get back the same gem, but as level 1 with 20% quality. Then you level it up again.

Definitely hear you about struggling with the Shaper's balls, beams and most definitely the degen. He thoroughly kicked my ass when I tried him a few days ago. Beams to the face, and I was dead before I had time to flame dash away. Then he kept sending degen balls while I'm inside Zana's protective bubble, and you can all guess the consequence of that. Sure, I tried to run circles in there to not pop them, but no go. By the time the 6th portal was lost, I had 4 freakin' degens in that little space. It was impossible.

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but don't think the murderous eye jewel in your sweet belt does all that much, apart from life (and res). Do you have something better to put in there?

I was going to suggest multistrike since I saw talk about melee splash, but you already have it. You don't need both tho. Would be better to use melee splash when mapping and then swap in multistrike for tough bosses (like I should have done, but forgot, in the catastrophic Shaper fight). I don't know what would be best here. Do you have decent leech? If you were to swap around and use leech + full life (with the 90% mastery), then "damage on full life support" (or some such name) would be good, as it gives 39% MORE damage iirc (edit, it was 34%). I used it on a bow build and it was rather good.

Yeah i swap melee splash for bossfight to bloodthirst, but i gonna replace it with awekened brutality, i can dodge everything the shaper does, i dont have problem with degen balls, i pull them to the side and activate them, the problem is that it enough to make a mistake once and i die, that is frustrating.

I tried playing without petrified blood and i hate it:D, i cant react to any oneshot bullshits, my leech constantly drops and it feels slow to build up, but i will work around it. tried to invest in spell suprresion but i need like +10 talent point, so much investment.

My jewel in the belt is the remnant of my last try at building my gear, becouse i dont theory craft, i just play the game and build organicly, there is alot of started and unfinished build routes, like my dreamfeather sword, i wanted to stack armor, but i didnt have the currency for it and settled with an unfinished gear set, but i managed to reach my goal dps. 1m+. at that time i really needed the +20 all resistance, thats why i have that gem. But i wonder what you consider a good gem in the belt. i have some with +phys dmg to attack.

I will try shaper again with the charge boots, my new flasks, and i tested in pob i will survive the slam, the shaper balls, and the bullets with molten shell, so i will use that if i cant dodge it, thats enough for me to defeat the shaper becous i did it almost 3 times, i jsut died to some unlucky movements into those projectile, now at least i can survive that with molten shell.

I did it guys! Last night i defeated the shaper first try, i only died once becouse i used molten shell to tank something then shaper used the slam and i forgot its still on cooldown. Apart from that it was really easy.

U helped me understand how to properly calculate my effHP for boss skills, and i wanted to try a run where i use molten shell on slam, so i never go out from melee range so i dont have to worry about the balls, and it worked so well, i did it first time, all thanks to you. I can finally be with me wife, or not.

The text in the left side didnt disappear, it still says defeat the elder in the shapers realm, please tell me i just have to kill the elder too to "finish" the game, and i dont have to farm shaper and elder for fragment for another bullshit bossfight, or worse.

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Kerberosz wrote:

The text in the left side didnt disappear, it still says defeat the elder in the shapers realm, please tell me i just have to kill the elder too to "finish" the game, and i dont have to farm shaper and elder for fragment for another bullshit bossfight

Alright, Ill lie then and tell you dont need to farm frags from Shaper & Elder to kill Uber Elder ;)

Noooo wayy, my wife gonna leav me for sure. She already packed her stuff.

At least i will have more time to play poe, might as well beat every boss on uber too. I ll prepare my body, and accept i ll never see sunlight again.

You probably should call it quits here. The story line has 4 major bosses, Uber Elder, Maven, Eater of Worlds and Searing Exarch and at least the first 2 are way harder than Shaper. I think i've beaten Shaper on the first or second try back in the day, Uber Elder took me like 10+ and it's way more difficult now to farm his fragments than it was back then so even getting access to the fight will take quite some time. If you want to save your marriage and your sanity you'd better stop now.

i defeated the eater of world, and searing exarch, that means elder, uber elder, and maven is left, only 3 boss to finish the game, although i hate the maven theme alltogether, her voice annoying, and sometimes she produces random bullshit synergies on bosses. I looeked up only 4% of the players have the shaper achievment, maybe i will settle for the shaper kill, and only try the rest on my free time for fun, not full time like a maniac. I wish there would be a clear progress bar on these thing, and make an achievable end for casuals, i understand its really good that there are so many hard goals in this game, but it would be nice to have a clear baseline finish line for casuals, and anything beyond that is an extra echievments clearly ment for hardcore players. For weeks i couldnt even grasp the Text line that i got after killing the eater of world, that said defeat the elder in the shaper's realm, i was like who? in the where? i saw shaper/elder influence implicits on maps and i had no idea what to do with it, then after a week it dropped a phoenix map, where i died without killing the boss, and i still didnt have a clue that im supposed to collect fragments. Of course if i have looked up guides or wiki i would have know, but i wanted to experience the game as it is, and i was still forced on third party websites, and softwares, like pob. And when i mean forced i really mean forced, my talent without pb sucked i had no idea why, when i discovered in pob that increased dmg addative and more dmg multiplikative, which is not explained ingame, it really helped me grasp which is stronger 40% increased dmg or 20% more dmg, and it was a breaktrough enabling to go above 1M dmg.

Thanks all for the help.