Sometimes I feel like I'm playing a VERY different game from everyone else...

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feike wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:
Hard disagree on pretty much everything you said, and the latter half is flat out statistically wrong. Straight up false, and verifiable. Hell more than double the amount of players get to the end of Elden Ring that open the PoE map device? LOL.

In fact in less than 2 years time, from a percentage standpoint, the amount of players making it to maps has dropped nearly 20% (and that represents hundreds of thousands of players)

Right now only 16% of all players get to the point of running a single T1 map? 1% kill a non-uber boss? That's brutally bad, no matter how someone wants to spin it.

More than half of players on elden ring get to the end of story? Okay, source? Steam shown that number is actually on less than 40%

On dark souls remastered it also sits on that 30-40% i mentioned: the amount of players that cleared the bed of chaos sits on 40%, that is not the end of the game and both achieves of the endings sits below 30%. Again, dont need to take my word from it, open the steam page and see yourself: https://steamcommunity.com/stats/570940/achievements

Ditto for dark souls 2: the amount of people who saw the ending sits on 33.2%, again, dont need to take my word, just open the steam page: https://steamcommunity.com/stats/236430/achievements

And i gave numbers abour other games, you can talk how they are wrong all you want, but anyone can open the steam page and see themselves


[Removed by Support] The numbers you just listed, which I also know, are totally in line with what I wrote.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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DarthSki44 wrote:

[Removed by Support] The numbers you just listed, which I also know, are totally in line with what I wrote.

Dude, your post was "completion of story around 20% and top content on 1% is bad"

I showed that, no... 30-40% even on pay games is standard, 20% on free to play is also normal. And completion of top content on 1-5% is also normal

Your response was "that is wrong, false and verifiable", okay, wich part?

What is not in line? About 30% complete the story of dark souls, about 20% cleared the original story of poe, about 2-5% tapped extra content on those other games i mentioned, little less than 2% cleared poe extra content

so??? What is "false and verifiably so"?

You must be one of those guys that seriously think stuff below T16 is not really part of the game... kinda goes in line with "influence tampering is too complex, think on the casuals"
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feike wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:

[Removed by Support] The numbers you just listed, which I also know, are totally in line with what I wrote.

Dude, your post was "completion of story around 20% and top content on 1% is bad"

I showed that, no... 30-40% even on pay games is standard, 20% on free to play is also normal. And completion of top content on 1-5% is also normal

Your response was "that is wrong, false and verifiable", okay, wich part?

What is not in line? About 30% complete the story of dark souls, about 20% cleared the original story of poe, about 2-5% tapped extra content on those other games i mentioned, little less than 2% cleared poe extra content

so??? What is "false and verifiably so"?

You must be one of those guys that seriously think stuff below T16 is not really part of the game...


16% open a PoE map in the device.

Between 33% and 39% of players reached endings in the souls games / elden ring.

I said more than double, which is correct.

Where is the problem?
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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DarthSki44 wrote:
16% open a PoE map in the device.

Between 33% and 39% of players reached endings in the souls games / elden ring.

I said more than double, which is correct.

Where is the problem?

Thats some nice tunnel-vision skills you have there champ

You said that 1% of maven is bad. It isnt and i showed on many more than just one particular game

You said my post was "false and verifiable". Still waiting for the sources that rebukes my numbers

16% of players running post-story content is bad??? LOL, i havend adressed that number, but sure, i could pick achieves that show that 10-20% of players tapping post-story is also normal

And now you try to fall back on the fact 33% is more than double of 16%??? Thats your point? Sure thing buddy, the amount of people who tap post-story content is indeed less than half the amount that complete who usually complete the story on any game. IDK where you got the idea that its any diff on any other game, but w/e, if being corrent on that 16-33 ratio was your point, sure thing
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feike wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:
16% open a PoE map in the device.

Between 33% and 39% of players reached endings in the souls games / elden ring.

I said more than double, which is correct.

Where is the problem?

Thats some nice tunnel-vision skills you have there champ

You said that 1% of maven is bad. It isnt and i showed on many more than just one particular game

You said my post was "false and verifiable". Still waiting for the sources that rebukes my numbers

16% of players running post-story content is bad??? LOL, i havend adressed that number, but sure, i could pick achieves that show that 10-20% of players tapping post-story is also normal

And now you try to fall back on the fact 33% is more than double of 16%??? Thats your point? Sure thing buddy, the amount of people who tap post-story content is indeed less than half the amount that complete who usually complete the story on any game. IDK where you got the idea that its any diff on any other game, but w/e, if being corrent on that 16-33 ratio was your point, sure thing


Lol what? I'm only addressing what I said in my post which was true. I'm not "falling back" on anything. That's all I wrote ffs. Thankfully anyone can go back and see.

If you think 16% making it to maps, and 1% killing Maven is fine, ok, we disagree. We dont have to derail the thread further, anyone can go to Steam, make a comparison with whatever game they want to see how it stands up, and make up their own mind.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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DarthSki44 wrote:

Lol what? I'm only addressing what I said in my post which was true. I'm not "falling back" on anything. That's all I wrote ffs. Thankfully anyone can go back and see.

From:
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DarthSki44 wrote:
Hard disagree on pretty much everything you said, and the latter half is flat out statistically wrong. Straight up false, and verifiable

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DarthSki44 wrote:

I said more than double, which is correct.

Where is the problem?

Yup, totally not falling back on anything

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DarthSki44 wrote:
If you think 16% making it to maps, and 1% killing Maven is fine, ok, we disagree. We dont have to derail the thread further, anyone can go to Steam, make a comparison with whatever game they want to see how it stands up, and make up their own mind.

Translating: "i cant refute your data, nor i can back up my claim that it was false and verifiable, but i still disagree because i wanna keep believing poe is bad"

Alright
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Hard disagree on pretty much everything you said, and the latter half is flat out statistically wrong. Straight up false, and verifiable. Hell more than double the amount of players get to the end of Elden Ring that open the PoE map device? LOL.


They only thing thats wrong here is how you interpret the data. Steam tracks achievements across all players. That means every player, that downloaded the game at some point, even before said achievements (like Ubers) got added.

The percentage of "downloading but barely playing" is much much higher for f2p games.

Example: Only 40% of Warframes "playerbase" has played for 2 hours

https://steamcommunity.com/stats/Warframe/achievements/

Only 57% of the players have dropped a Mod, which should literally happen in your first story mission.


Less than 7% have finished 3 Sorties. Which is basically mid-game activities.



If you keep track of Global 1 for even 10 minutes, the same basic questions will pop up non-stop when they are not degrading themselves over petty grievances.

Upgrading help menu would go a humongous wait to
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Phrazz wrote:
maybe passively/indirectly.
helping without being overly obnoxious like newer games, contrary to what some "experts" here are saying.
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konga70 wrote:
Yeah people are stupid bro.
They will always just copy whatever the youtuber tells them to do.

You can easily just pick up this game and use your brain and get to level 95 and finish ur atlas with nothing but pob.

I have also never used any 3rd party tool besides PoB, unless you count the trade macro.

The passive tree was in the old playstation 1 ff games, if people cant grasp it by now then they are lost, but most people are. The average IQ in the US is 98 lol.

Just play video games to have fun and entertain yourself. Don't be a metaslave, you wont learn anything and you will have less fun.

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I don't believe for a second that you are a legitimate POE player and have never used the chromatic calculator or Craft of Exile to calculate the most efficient way to craft or to easily get all the possible affix %? Or a filter, or Awakened POE trade, or POE Ninja to see prices and builds..etc. Come on man...
konga crucible chars

1 lvl 75 , 1 lvl 31,
and impeding doom pathfinder lvl 95
and HC char lvl 58 , guess what skill, boneshatter ?

hahaha, classic forum troll.
creative player with high iq right in the meta.
99 iq maybe ?

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