FIX THE SUDDEN SHUT DOWNS!!!!!!!!!!

I have already and have for some time now disabled the automatic restarts and it still shuts down no BSOD. I have a feeling you guys are getting somewhere with the PSU. I have had issues before with brightness changing like crazy when playing on certain battery plans. If it is battery/PSU/ whatever is there anything i can do on my laptop?
Lil Sebastian
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Darkrox01 wrote:
The thing is, i'm having the same problem as OP, and wasn't able to fix it, let's call it "client-sided".
Since a lot of players report that kind of PC behavoir it's the most obvious assumption, that he got the same problem as everyone else, except he get's no bsod. That's why i brought the auto-reboot up and suggested reading out the minidumps to back up my hypothesis.

That's also the reason why i ruled out the overheat and load thesis, since i checked that on my PC and since OP said he checked heat too. Gpus with high load rise in temp pretty fast, so both stick together most of the time, so cheking either of both should be enough imo.

I'm not saying that Voltage for example can't be the reason. Some time ago my PC started rebooting or shutting down at random too, and the reason was the Powersupply since the new gpu drained far too much for it at full load. But this brings us back to temp and load, if they aren't high, it's most likely not draining full power (atleast mine clocks down depending on load) + OP can play BF without problems and i'm pretty sure that takes 100% cpu and gpu.

To sum up this wall of text: I'm pretty sure the user is having the same bsod problem as everyone else, and therefore there is no solution atm besides providing GGG with the crash infos.

Sidenode btw: The bsod on AMD cards is triggered by ati3duag.dll, but Nvidia users are getting the bsod too, would be good to know what triggers the bsod for them. So in case any Nvidia user or even OP is reading this, let us and GGG know what causes it for you.

btw: Sry if i seem grumpy, it's kind of my job to argue and that's hard to suppress in my freetime =)


Something that I saw with another computer shutting down randomly that was related to heat, but not caused by it. User had a faulty PSU - it still worked, for the most part, but it wasn't putting out as much wattage as it was rated for. When the card was taxed, it couldn't keep up with the wattage demand, and the computer would black screen shutdown, and wouldn't turn back on until it cooled off a bit. Video cards aren't always pulling a full draw, so when the computer is idling, you wouldn't notice this problem.

As a card gets hotter, the resistance the PSU has to fight against goes up. If you find you are shutting down whenever you start to reach a certain temperature, it could indicate that you have an issue similar to the one I've seen.

That being said, I'm kind of grasping at straws, I've only seen that issue once.
Ya i suspect it has to do with the GPU drawing to much power for my power supply to handle. I was searching the web and found this thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/634683-gt540m-ok-have-i-broken.html
He has the exact same card and is having similar crashing issues. The one comment suggested to downclock. I've hadn't tought of doing that yet so ill give that a shot. I've downclocked to 600 mhz.
Lil Sebastian
I would monitor your heat and see if you always shut down at a similar temp range. No reason not to check.
IF YOUR READING THIS THREAD NOTICE THIS!

So after down clocking to 600mhz I was able to party up in docks for over 2 hours with no shutdown. I'm tired so im hitting the sack and will report any shut downs tommorow! 2 HOURS IS A FIRST WITH NO SHUTDOWN! Though im not putting all my eggs in one basket!
Lil Sebastian
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csluyuan wrote:
The reason I bring up load and voltage specifically is I had a machine of my own that the PSU was under-rated for the hardware I was running. I didn't realize it at the time until I put my machine under some heavy load (playing PoE). My machine started rebooting.. very similarly to the report here. After some diagnostics, I found out that the PSU was being over-drawn and causing low voltage to the MB. This caused the PC to randomly reboot itself. No errors. No BSOD (I was on Linux, so that doesn't happen), but it just rebooted.

There's a reason I make these suggestions. I have experience with them. I'm not saying your suggestions are invalid. In fact, you brought up a suggestion I didn't think of (the auto-reboot enabled on BSOD).




Poor Drakier...your posts are being used not to try sell gold in Gw2 :P
Ancestral Bond. It's a thing that does stuff. -Vipermagi

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GOD DAMMIT! Shut Down again this morning! Was so optimistic about it! Should i try downclocking more?
Lil Sebastian
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lagwin1980 wrote:
Poor Drakier...your posts are being used not to try sell gold in Gw2 :P


Lol.. I see that. *shrug*

Guess the bots are getting smarter and they know who to repeat in the forums *grins*

Edit to reply:
You can either down-clock more, or run the monitor software as suggested before to get an idea of temperature/load/voltage to see if there is something in there that can point to an issue. As Lask said, even though it might not be overheating, the load from temp rise could cause the PSU to fail. You don't have to overheat to still have hardware issues. Does it seem to want to reboot around the same temperature (both system and GPU)?
Last edited by Drakier#1520 on Apr 17, 2013, 11:11:24 AM
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Drakier wrote:
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lagwin1980 wrote:
Poor Drakier...your posts are being used not to try sell gold in Gw2 :P


Lol.. I see that. *shrug*

Guess the bots are getting smarter and they know who to repeat in the forums *grins*


Something to strive for, having a bot imitate you. :P
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Drakier wrote:
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lagwin1980 wrote:
Poor Drakier...your posts are being used not to try sell gold in Gw2 :P


Lol.. I see that. *shrug*

Guess the bots are getting smarter and they know who to repeat in the forums *grins*

Edit to reply:
You can either down-clock more, or run the monitor software as suggested before to get an idea of temperature/load/voltage to see if there is something in there that can point to an issue. As Lask said, even though it might not be overheating, the load from temp rise could cause the PSU to fail. You don't have to overheat to still have hardware issues. Does it seem to want to reboot around the same temperature (both system and GPU)?


No the temps are always different when it shuts down. It definitely seems random. Sometimes i feel like its shutting down because of the overload in party graphics, and sometimes I will be soloing and just randomly BOOM!
Lil Sebastian

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