If you rely on raw drops, you're going to have a bad time. This has been known historically throughout PoE's history. You'll make divines more reliably by engaging in certain league content.
This!
Also, Sanctum is historically one of the best league mechanics for getting raw divines, yielding 1-4 every run. The last league that dropped this much raw currency was archnemesis, and getting those t4 AN recipes was much more time-consuming. Throughout Lake of Kalandra league, I got exactly 1 raw divine from the league mechanic.
This is not a good time to be complaining about divine drops, my dude.
You had 24 challenges done in Kalandra not 40 hahahah. Ofc you got only 1 divine drop. Anyway i dont complain about divine drop. On contrary i think they drop to much overall and inflation is too huge because of that. Awakend gems cost 30 40 50 divines. But thats other topic. What i said there is that raw drop became 0 while league content went from 3 to 500. In my experience i think playing game is waste of time instead you should just spam league and exit map. That is bad game design. You can literally print divines by playing graveyard sanctum only and printing invitations. Maps are free and you buy them with eater or exarc invitation u get. On top of that you get all sanctum for free and very easy coz its best spawn. BUT THATS MY POINT. Playing game is waste of time. You exploit system to earn mirrors. It feels bad. Thats not statement its a fact. You can only say you like that way of gameplay. Sure i can handle that but i dont like that way of game design. Thats just my opinion and feedback i think i earned after i did 40/40. You do same and prove me wrong, but after u do 40/40 you will understand what i mean by waste of time.
If you rely on raw drops, you're going to have a bad time. This has been known historically throughout PoE's history. You'll make divines more reliably by engaging in certain league content.
Tujen, for example, has found me 11 divines from haggling. I'd have gotten more, but I ran out of artifacts before I used up all of my exotic coins.
Before that, I've found 8 from completing sanctum runs.
The reason you don't get many raw divine drops is because GGG nerfed them to make up for the money printers found elsewhere in the game.
Yea i completely agree on that but i think its bad decision. I am just comparing raw drops compared to leagues before. On average i was getting like 20-30 divines from raw drops. This league i got only 2 from raw drops and it feels really bad. Again i dont need farming guide XDD i am just pointing difference compared to last league and leagues before that. 10-20 times less divines in 38 challenges. I dont care if i got 5000 mirrors from sanctum all i want is more even drop rate across all content. I dont want meta build i dont want meta farming strategy i dont want to do what they want me to do. Thats boring and small. Sure overall this league has 10 times more currency compared to last league but its trash system IMO. Its boring and unfair. Ppl are missing my point completely somehow. I dont need more divines i need more even drops so i dont feel like i waste my time doing stuff that gives 100 c per 5 days of gameplay.
See, there's a problem with what you're asking for. If GGG were to increase raw divine drops, it would hurt the economy they spend way too much time maintaining at the expense of fun for everyone else (*cough* Harvest *cough*). There's no way they would just do that, opting instead to nerf the currency you could get in other content. You may see more raw divine drops from normal mapping, but it will come at the expense of Heist, Expedition, Sanctum (assuming it goes core), etc being profitable.
This also hurts players who don't run good mapping builds or are too poor to clear them in a minute. Yes this current system hurts you as a mapper, but you can blitz through them a lot faster than most people ever will, so you'll still pull a lot of currency out of mapping even if it may not be raw divines.
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Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!
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Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on Jan 12, 2023, 2:51:16 PM
Yea i completely agree on that but i think its bad decision. I am just comparing raw drops compared to leagues before. On average i was getting like 20-30 divines from raw drops. This league i got only 2 from raw drops and it feels really bad. Again i dont need farming guide XDD i am just pointing difference compared to last league and leagues before that. 10-20 times less divines in 38 challenges. I dont care if i got 5000 mirrors from sanctum all i want is more even drop rate across all content. I dont want meta build i dont want meta farming strategy i dont want to do what they want me to do. Thats boring and small. Sure overall this league has 10 times more currency compared to last league but its trash system IMO. Its boring and unfair. Ppl are missing my point completely somehow. I dont need more divines i need more even drops so i dont feel like i waste my time doing stuff that gives 100 c per 5 days of gameplay.
QFT - This x one million
What happened to GGG along the way? They used to develop leagues with the intent that they were interesting and the player wanted to engage with the mechanic. Now it seems you have to bribe the player with currency in order for them to engage with the mechanic. That's bad design and a symptom of a significant problem.
If you rely on raw drops, you're going to have a bad time. This has been known historically throughout PoE's history. You'll make divines more reliably by engaging in certain league content.
Tujen, for example, has found me 11 divines from haggling. I'd have gotten more, but I ran out of artifacts before I used up all of my exotic coins.
Before that, I've found 8 from completing sanctum runs.
The reason you don't get many raw divine drops is because GGG nerfed them to make up for the money printers found elsewhere in the game.
Yea i completely agree on that but i think its bad decision. I am just comparing raw drops compared to leagues before. On average i was getting like 20-30 divines from raw drops. This league i got only 2 from raw drops and it feels really bad. Again i dont need farming guide XDD i am just pointing difference compared to last league and leagues before that. 10-20 times less divines in 38 challenges. I dont care if i got 5000 mirrors from sanctum all i want is more even drop rate across all content. I dont want meta build i dont want meta farming strategy i dont want to do what they want me to do. Thats boring and small. Sure overall this league has 10 times more currency compared to last league but its trash system IMO. Its boring and unfair. Ppl are missing my point completely somehow. I dont need more divines i need more even drops so i dont feel like i waste my time doing stuff that gives 100 c per 5 days of gameplay.
See, there's a problem with what you're asking for. If GGG were to increase raw divine drops, it would hurt the economy they spend way too much time maintaining at the expense of fun for everyone else (*cough* Harvest *cough*). There's no way they would just do that, opting instead to nerf the currency you could get in other content. You may see more raw divine drops from normal mapping, but it will come at the expense of Heist, Expedition, Sanctum (assuming it goes core), etc being profitable.
This also hurts players who don't run good mapping builds or are too poor to clear them in a minute. Yes this current system hurts you as a mapper, but you can blitz through them a lot faster than most people ever will, so you'll still pull a lot of currency out of mapping even if it may not be raw divines.
I ask for more balanced system thats all. They went from too much divines from mob drops to none. I dont like this big swings they do all the time. I get it its for POE 2 but still a bit more balanced economy wouldn't hurt. Game should have balanced drops from league content and from maps as well as from bossing. I dont mind it that much coz i earn ton of currency either way but i quit league faster and enjoy less and spend time on char improvement less and less. Simple example would be gems. Before you needed like 20ish divines to have full endgame gems. Now in some cases u need like 100 divines only to get gems XD Again its not problem for me(but its boring and dumb) but i cant imagine most ppl wiling to stay and play game. They would most likely just quit. I can feel economy and even tho this league had BY FAR MOST divine drops it felt flat. Most ppl left after short time. I rushed to get 40/40 when i realized ppl left league. Again thats just my opinion. Some agree some disagree but i feel like game is not going in right direction. Simple fact is that i killed 1 million mobs in grinding gear game and received 2 divines for that. You cant make that up. FLAT AF.
Yea i completely agree on that but i think its bad decision. I am just comparing raw drops compared to leagues before. On average i was getting like 20-30 divines from raw drops. This league i got only 2 from raw drops and it feels really bad. Again i dont need farming guide XDD i am just pointing difference compared to last league and leagues before that. 10-20 times less divines in 38 challenges. I dont care if i got 5000 mirrors from sanctum all i want is more even drop rate across all content. I dont want meta build i dont want meta farming strategy i dont want to do what they want me to do. Thats boring and small. Sure overall this league has 10 times more currency compared to last league but its trash system IMO. Its boring and unfair. Ppl are missing my point completely somehow. I dont need more divines i need more even drops so i dont feel like i waste my time doing stuff that gives 100 c per 5 days of gameplay.
QFT - This x one million
What happened to GGG along the way? They used to develop leagues with the intent that they were interesting and the player wanted to engage with the mechanic. Now it seems you have to bribe the player with currency in order for them to engage with the mechanic. That's bad design and a symptom of a significant problem.
You had 24 challenges done in Kalandra not 40 hahahah. Ofc you got only 1 divine drop. Anyway i dont complain about divine drop. On contrary i think they drop to much overall and inflation is too huge because of that. Awakend gems cost 30 40 50 divines. But thats other topic. What i said there is that raw drop became 0 while league content went from 3 to 500. In my experience i think playing game is waste of time instead you should just spam league and exit map. That is bad game design. You can literally print divines by playing graveyard sanctum only and printing invitations. Maps are free and you buy them with eater or exarc invitation u get. On top of that you get all sanctum for free and very easy coz its best spawn. BUT THATS MY POINT. Playing game is waste of time. You exploit system to earn mirrors. It feels bad. Thats not statement its a fact. You can only say you like that way of gameplay. Sure i can handle that but i dont like that way of game design. Thats just my opinion and feedback i think i earned after i did 40/40. You do same and prove me wrong, but after u do 40/40 you will understand what i mean by waste of time.
omg there's no arguing with the 40 challenge crowd lol
I'm sorry but I can't be bothered to do all that work just to get some ugly mtx that i'll never use. I care about building well geared characters that can do all content, and I've done that this league.
Anyone can buy their way into 40/40 on trade league, so unless you do it on SSF then please sit down - your opinion is not more valid than anyone else here
Yea i completely agree on that but i think its bad decision. I am just comparing raw drops compared to leagues before. On average i was getting like 20-30 divines from raw drops. This league i got only 2 from raw drops and it feels really bad. Again i dont need farming guide XDD i am just pointing difference compared to last league and leagues before that. 10-20 times less divines in 38 challenges. I dont care if i got 5000 mirrors from sanctum all i want is more even drop rate across all content. I dont want meta build i dont want meta farming strategy i dont want to do what they want me to do. Thats boring and small. Sure overall this league has 10 times more currency compared to last league but its trash system IMO. Its boring and unfair. Ppl are missing my point completely somehow. I dont need more divines i need more even drops so i dont feel like i waste my time doing stuff that gives 100 c per 5 days of gameplay.
QFT - This x one million
What happened to GGG along the way? They used to develop leagues with the intent that they were interesting and the player wanted to engage with the mechanic. Now it seems you have to bribe the player with currency in order for them to engage with the mechanic. That's bad design and a symptom of a significant problem.
I'd hope they would "bribe" the players, considering league encounter monsters also have consistently been more difficult to fight than standard mobs in maps. The only exception to this rule has been Ritual, because the danger is in the hazards rather than the monsters.
There's a reason encounters like Expedition pump out tons of currency. If the encounter is more likely to kill you, it better be worth the risk of running. Otherwise, nobody would do it over mapping with nothing else going for it.
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!
MFers found strength in their Afflictions. They became reliant on them. I am not so foolish.
Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on Jan 12, 2023, 4:41:24 PM
If you rely on raw drops, you're going to have a bad time. This has been known historically throughout PoE's history. You'll make divines more reliably by engaging in certain league content.
This!
Also, Sanctum is historically one of the best league mechanics for getting raw divines, yielding 1-4 every run. The last league that dropped this much raw currency was archnemesis, and getting those t4 AN recipes was much more time-consuming. Throughout Lake of Kalandra league, I got exactly 1 raw divine from the league mechanic.
This is not a good time to be complaining about divine drops, my dude.
You had 24 challenges done in Kalandra not 40 hahahah. Ofc you got only 1 divine drop. Anyway i dont complain about divine drop. On contrary i think they drop to much overall and inflation is too huge because of that. Awakend gems cost 30 40 50 divines. But thats other topic. What i said there is that raw drop became 0 while league content went from 3 to 500. In my experience i think playing game is waste of time instead you should just spam league and exit map. That is bad game design. You can literally print divines by playing graveyard sanctum only and printing invitations. Maps are free and you buy them with eater or exarc invitation u get. On top of that you get all sanctum for free and very easy coz its best spawn. BUT THATS MY POINT. Playing game is waste of time. You exploit system to earn mirrors. It feels bad. Thats not statement its a fact. You can only say you like that way of gameplay. Sure i can handle that but i dont like that way of game design. Thats just my opinion and feedback i think i earned after i did 40/40. You do same and prove me wrong, but after u do 40/40 you will understand what i mean by waste of time.
Do you think you're like above everyone else because you're 40/40 which is the easiest it's been? Do you truly think your opinion has more value then anyone else? Ask your self that.
Being 40/40 doesn't mean your opinion is king nor does make you think everything is true to your beliefs dude it doesn't work like that.
Here this is my opinion and I play 100% more then most of everyone here relying on RAW divine drops is possibly one of the silliest things you can do that's like making money 101 lesson #511 you don't do that everyone who focused on money or in this case ''CPH'' knows the very basic rule of that; I guess this is your first.
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Last edited by Coconutdoggy#1805 on Jan 12, 2023, 5:04:42 PM
Here this is my opinion and I play 100% more then most of everyone here relying on RAW divine drops is possibly one of the silliest things you can do that's like making money 101 lesson #511 you don't do that everyone who focused on money or in this case ''CPH'' knows the very basic rule of that; I guess this is your first.
