Big Ducks killing it on whats wrong with the game and how to fix it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EO9_UMDh_c



GGG - you really need to listen to this, especially with the nerfs to defenses.

Its been really rough this league.

"build diversity has taken a nosedive" he says.

the build diversity this league has is one of the best in the recent years, someone tell this dude to stop overdosing on crack. I killed multiple ubers this league on explosive concoction scion and lightning trap elementalist, both of which are simply nonexistent on poe.ninja

I've been playing this game since synthesis and it's the same discussion EVERY SINGLE LEAGUE. "no build diversity, only 3 builds in poe.ninja, omg melee dead". Melee is fine, people are just too stupid to dodge things so they perform better on ranged builds and incorrectly assume that it's the archetype's fault. No dumbass, you can't expect to hold right click to kill everything in the game, that's the issue. Melee is harder to play in almost all games, nothing new to see here.

There are literally hundreds of melee builds on poe.ninja who seem to be doing extremely well. And yes, I'm talking about real melee skills, not op shit like LS. There are some underpowered melee skills, I would agree with that but it doesn't mean that melee sucks in general.

What the fuck do these ppl want anyway? 1% representation for 100 different skills?

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auspexa wrote:

I killed multiple ubers this league on explosive concoction scion and lightning trap elementalist

you have standard trap gear and ashes with spell suppress and evasion and your build is entirely unremarkable. Every build has either your exact defensive setup or an Aegis Aurora for max block or a Squire and glancing blows unless it's a ward build. You have the same build everyone else has my dude.

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auspexa wrote:

Melee is fine, people are just too stupid to dodge things

I think this stands alone by itself I don't have to respond to it

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grybranix wrote:

Every build has either your exact defensive setup or an Aegis Aurora for max block or a Squire and glancing blows unless it's a ward build. You have the same build everyone else has my dude.

See, that's already 4 working defense setups you've listed there with your limited knowledge, there is at least a dozen more only counting the good ones.


As for the video, i think his second point is the main topic. People always want to do all content in the game, because that's the natural thing to do and it has been this way through all of human kinds history, but GGG with their elitist hardcore game attitude can't have that and keeps designing bosses that are so stupid and unfair that only a select few builds who manage to cross about a hundred check marks can even hope to do them. Either that or builds with so much dps that there isn't even a fight. Like the only sane people that would bother fighting uber Sirus or Exarch are most likely those who can delete them in <1 second.

Imo the main problem in this is said elitist mindset of GGG. They should focus on making bosses interesting and fun to fight with as much difficulty as possible while maintaining that. They also should make sure to keep all archetypes in mind when designing them so they don't do stupid stuff like making bosses where the ground itself is the most dangerous opponent. But instead they only care about how to make the bosses as impossibly difficult as possible by using untrespassable arena floors constant bullet hells and the like, removing all the fun along with most of the builds that can do them.

The rest of his video is honestly just the same bullshit the community has been repeating ever since i joined this game. "Oh no, there are only 3 builds in the top 3 of POE Ninja, builddiversity is dead and the world is burning".

Yeah, just because all the sheep stick to grass doesn't mean you can't eat meat you know? There are tons of skills even in the 0,x percentage range with excellent scaling that can easily do all (non uber) content and usually even at least a part of the uber content. Not to say there aren't horrible skills but build variety is way better than most people think. But what do you expect from people who don't know how to make builds themselves, who only follow what some streamer told them and who don't even know there is that ridiculously overpowered defensive skill that's available to all classes called movement and therefore eat all the AN mechanics there are.

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auspexa wrote:

There are literally hundreds of melee builds on poe.ninja who seem to be doing extremely well. And yes, I'm talking about real melee skills, not op shit like LS. There are some underpowered melee skills, I would agree with that but it doesn't mean that melee sucks in general.

as someone who is the top wild striker on hc ssf kalandra
i will tell you its very fun and not very viable unless you like to be punished

stopped playing about month ago and still no one has surpassed me

it seriously shows the state of melee
sure a streamer could surpass my position if they wanted

also none of your characters in your character pool are geared for melee. try melee strike a non-bonshatter or LS and you will see your progress is slower, clunky, and put into the center of danger with no upside

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Baharoth15 wrote:

People always want to do all content in the game, because that's the natural thing to do and it has been this way through all of human kinds history, but GGG with their elitist hardcore game attitude can't have that and keeps designing bosses that are so stupid and unfair that only a select few builds who manage to cross about a hundred check marks can even hope to do them.

what's "build diversity"?

to developers, a majority of player setups being able to walk to endgame and killing the endboss means a "low bad build diversity".

why?

cause builds are meant to be exceptional setups that cleverly combine different concepts for survivability and damage.

if every random poe ninja PoB hero can slap together some defenses and damage gems and succeed with that there is no "build".

for a "build" to be called "a build", there need to be other setups that fail. that's basic understanding of games, not a elitist approach. and you probably need content that challenges ALL builds.

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vio wrote:

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Baharoth15 wrote:

People always want to do all content in the game, because that's the natural thing to do and it has been this way through all of human kinds history, but GGG with their elitist hardcore game attitude can't have that and keeps designing bosses that are so stupid and unfair that only a select few builds who manage to cross about a hundred check marks can even hope to do them.

what's "build diversity"?

to developers, a majority of player setups being able to walk to endgame and killing the endboss means a "low build diversity".

why?

cause builds are meant to be exceptional setups that cleverly combine different concepts for survivability and damage.

if every random poe ninja PoB hero can slap together some defenses and damage gems and succeed with that there is no "build".

for a "build" to be called "a build", there need to be other setups that fail. that's basic understanding of games, not a elitist approach. and you probably need content that challenges ALL builds.

That's honestly among the biggest bullshit i've heard so far in this forum. High build diversity means that there are lot's of options to choose from and different ways to combine them to reach a goal. Trying to sell extremely limited options and even more limited combinations as high diversity because there need to be failures is idiotic. Ofc there need to be failures but there should be a healthy amount of choices that work and that's simply not the case for certain pieces of content.
Like did you EVER even bother to fight Uber Sirus oder Uber Exarch or are you just talking about things you don't know shit about? Those fights have absolutely disgusting design with degen grounds that disable recovery, increase damage taken, increase movementskill cooldown and deal damage covering like 80-90% of the arena.
There isn't even a "right" build to deal with this, literally all your build choices are completely invalidated because those degen pools disable anything and everything that allows a build to stay alive without any counter measure available. The only builds that do not "fail" here are those with enough DPS to instadelete the bosses. If that is honestly your idea of good and healthy boss design then you are just as hopeless as GGG is.

I honestly think build diversity is quite good if you look at the game as a whole but certain boss encounters are just plain bullshit design and don't even have a shred of it.

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grybranix wrote:

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auspexa wrote:

I killed multiple ubers this league on explosive concoction scion and lightning trap elementalist

you have standard trap gear and ashes with spell suppress and evasion and your build is entirely unremarkable. Every build has either your exact defensive setup or an Aegis Aurora for max block or a Squire and glancing blows unless it's a ward build. You have the same build everyone else has my dude.

Sounds like my Hiero this league is what you are looking for then. I have no defenses. I have very little eHP for someone with no defenses. Pretty much no one is playing my build and you'd be hard pressed to show how my build is the same build as everyone else's. But my guy rarely dies and I have over 40MM udps (not sdps). I've killed every uber on it. The upside to all of this? My build even in final form is laughably cheap since no one plays it.

Last league when I went and made a build like this (with a different skill) I pushed to 100. Didn't feel like it this league and stopped at 98 cuz I wanted to try other builds. Build diversity is there, you just need to know how to make builds that work for your own playstyle.

Cheap builds are the best it feels great to get crazy power because nobody else plays something.

Diversity is down though because so many builds don't have freedom in their building or itemisation, we are very very close to "template" characters where you have 15 floating passives you put in skill X and everything else is the same, with the same items equipped.

Almost every inquisitor i make looks the same and equips similar items for example. Can I clear all the content with most skills if I start with a strong defensive basis? Of course I can, but that doesn't mean diversity is good it means they are being crutched on a handful of overperforming stats.

Its easy to find out when this is the case too you just ask yourself what would the build be like if you removed this key piece, if it still works its probably OK but if its substantially reduced its propped up.

Omniscience is a really good example of this, 200% elemental penetration made anything work and while on paper that looks good its a false friend - you've just swapped skill diversity 0 to item diversity 0.

We are and have previously had both.

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grybranix wrote:

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auspexa wrote:

I killed multiple ubers this league on explosive concoction scion and lightning trap elementalist

you have standard trap gear and ashes with spell suppress and evasion and your build is entirely unremarkable. Every build has either your exact defensive setup or an Aegis Aurora for max block or a Squire and glancing blows unless it's a ward build. You have the same build everyone else has my dude.

of course I'm using suppression and evasion as a trapper, what the fuck am I supposed to use if not these? you want me to play a mom build or an armour stacker as a trapper? what does the thread have anything to do with defensive layers? melee builds have access to even more defensive layers, so I don't understand what point you're trying to make here.

"the same build everyone else"

meanwhile literally zero player on poe.ninja with a similar build, including the daily build section.