UNDECEMBER is PoE killer.

This game is not even close to compete with PoE at all.

Have you guys played it already? Because I have, and the game is just another korean cash grab. The whole trade system currency is PAID. If you don't purchase with real money you can't trade! :D Which is a massive issue since soon there is gonna be trading currency inflation... you can't have trading goods being obtainable through gameplay and the currency to trade them being obtained with cash... It does not add up...

As for gameplay I am fairly new and haven't even got to the end-game but seems like gameplay is not bad, but trading OH BOI there is huge question mark on that topic.
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BobsynS wrote:
This game is not even close to compete with PoE at all.

Have you guys played it already? Because I have, and the game is just another korean cash grab. The whole trade system currency is PAID. If you don't purchase with real money you can't trade! :D Which is a massive issue since soon there is gonna be trading currency inflation... you can't have trading goods being obtainable through gameplay and the currency to trade them being obtained with cash... It does not add up...

As for gameplay I am fairly new and haven't even got to the end-game but seems like gameplay is not bad, but trading OH BOI there is huge question mark on that topic.

From my understanding, you can get the trade currency (ruby?) from selling stuff on the market.
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FedeS wrote:
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BobsynS wrote:
This game is not even close to compete with PoE at all.

Have you guys played it already? Because I have, and the game is just another korean cash grab. The whole trade system currency is PAID. If you don't purchase with real money you can't trade! :D Which is a massive issue since soon there is gonna be trading currency inflation... you can't have trading goods being obtainable through gameplay and the currency to trade them being obtained with cash... It does not add up...

As for gameplay I am fairly new and haven't even got to the end-game but seems like gameplay is not bad, but trading OH BOI there is huge question mark on that topic.

From my understanding, you can get the trade currency (ruby?) from selling stuff on the market.


Yeah, and in order to obtain that Ruby someone has to have paid for it. So you have an economy where goods are 100% farmable and obtainable through gameplay ( constant flow of goods based on the number of active players )... and you have economy currency ( unpredictable far from constant flow of currency based on how many Sheeps have been cash-grabbed.. ) ..

Does that seem like a stable trade economy having the goods coming from within the game and the currency for it coming from OUTside the game? :D
Last edited by BobsynS#3592 on Oct 24, 2022, 8:15:47 AM
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BobsynS wrote:
This game is not even close to compete with PoE at all.

Have you guys played it already? Because I have, and the game is just another korean cash grab. The whole trade system currency is PAID. If you don't purchase with real money you can't trade! :D Which is a massive issue since soon there is gonna be trading currency inflation... you can't have trading goods being obtainable through gameplay and the currency to trade them being obtained with cash... It does not add up...

As for gameplay I am fairly new and haven't even got to the end-game but seems like gameplay is not bad, but trading OH BOI there is huge question mark on that topic.


Yes the tradeis bad but the gameplay overall is way better. I like the boss fights, different mechanics and time to react, fights are build up to understand the fight and learn. No bull***t death penalty. But im act 5 atm and will see, so far i enjoy it a lot.
reviews on steam are not good at all. tons of ppl calling it a rootkit and saying they had a hard time removing it completely.

then again ppl were saying that about valorant and ppl are still playing that like nothing happened ;)
Last edited by teksuoPOE#2987 on Oct 25, 2022, 8:43:26 AM
p2w game , to avoid like cancer !!!!!
learning is a painful process ... knowledge is the most deadly weapon.
I am 40ish hours in Undecember and really like (most) of it. I paid 0€ by the way and have fun so saying cash grab is not the full story. If you do not want to compete with others and just play a bit, it is fine!

The only thing that is trash is the music...horrible! I switched it off completely.

It does some things right to me that I was missing in POE as a casual player (0.5-2h day)
- loot is rare (less clicks)
- defenses simplified (no PhD needed)
- auto attack (if you want) so again less clicking
- NO one shots or sudden deaths
- auto potions if health drops below 60% (less micro management)

I really enjoy the burn arrow build (DoT) there.

I would love to come back to POE if it treats me better.
I do not want to invest rare leisure time to get frustrated by unfair game mechanics... POE has become a toxic girlfriend to me
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Parob86 wrote:
If you do not want to compete with others and just play a bit, it is fine!


Isn't that true of any game? That is the lowest bar possible to clear to call anything a game.
I am level 86 as a pure minion build. I am very liking the game now best POE filler/alternative.

My opinion:

>Auction house is very nice but less powerful than POE trade. You can't buy rune(gem) in the auction house.

>The campaign/story is more harder than POE because of bosses (act 5+) and you will be below the monsters level later on.

>act 1 to act 10 can be played without buying the tabs especially now that they have increased the character inventory from 100 to 150.

>Auto flask is a very good feature that can be modified and switch off. This is your primary defense because the game has no immortal call/molten shell, vaal pact, 100+ regeneration per second, unlimted movement skills, blasphemy+curses. There are two types 1.) 10 seconds cooldown life/mana flasks that don't give instant recovery 2.) 60 seconds cooldown life/mana flasks that give instant recovery

>mapping is better than POE's alch & go maps but very grindy in terms of experience gain. The good thing is no death penalty. I have my favorite maps that I wish I can play all the time but I avoid those maps that spawns ulden knight mage/archmage because they have projetile skills and projectiles are very annoying and deadly.

>end game mapping can be played with 28 movement speed boots without getting sleepy. POE spoiled us with unlimited movement skills and +150% movement speed. There's something about POE that I can't play longer while not spamming movement skills or not having 30%+ movement speed.
lol the Steam forums are a shitshow of upset people who've been banned because people who obtained currency through RMT or stolen cards bought their items on the AH

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