Melee buffs!

Melee has a lot more issues than just numbers on gems. There have been so many changes to the way skills play on a basic level.

^ They do have more problems but the numbers allow the players to compensate for weaknesses.

Everything in PoE comes out of the same budget, the higher the number on a skill the more is available to fix it.

Wouldn't fix the strike animation "bug" though which is horrible all by itself :p just saying numbers would go a long way for some skills.

If heavy strike did 500% I could make a pretty viable HC build with it - not great, but fun.

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mrrick1781 wrote:

Melee has a lot more issues than just numbers on gems.

Of course. But when they - repeatedly - show us that they cannot even get the numbers right, are you very optimistic about possible mechanical changes?

To me, it seems like there is one loud voice in the GGG offices that is refusing to buff melee, because he views everything from a "mirrored gear" point of view. I even think I know who it is. Because everyone in the office involved in balance can't be this blind. It's theoretically impossible.

Aren't more buff notes appearing a few days or so? Streamers say the manifesto is mainly just nerfs. Tho I don't know just asking.

Ye melee buffs seemed the obvious path.
Not a fan of armour to dps builds still, where's the dreamfeather nerf?

Any new player may go on these forums to see 10 threads about melee being dps underwhelming or wanting new animations or sfx. For melee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkcDcET9tjw

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Phrazz wrote:

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mrrick1781 wrote:

Melee has a lot more issues than just numbers on gems.

Of course. But when they - repeatedly - show us that they cannot even get the numbers right, are you very optimistic about possible mechanical changes?

To me, it seems like there is one loud voice in the GGG offices that is refusing to buff melee, because he views everything from a "mirrored gear" point of view. I even think I know who it is. Because everyone in the office involved in balance can't be this blind. It's theoretically impossible.

I think it's been pointed out in other comments (not just one) that most of the GGG staff is working on POE2 at this stage. With the amount of work that would need to go into fixing melee for example just isn't going to happen in POE1. I know POE2 is just a big update rather than a whole new game. It's going to be a few updates after POE2 comes out before they even look at things like a total rebalancing of melee.

At this stage, they are just picking out a few issues and nerfing it into the ground just so they don't have to worry about it for a few years. They know everyone will be back for POE2 so they will fix it then to add to the hype of the update.

You all might want to consider the possibility that GGG actually thinks melee is in a "ok" spot based on their statistics. Simply because the melee you talk about, and the melee GGG thinks about are completely different things.

When GGG looks at melee, they'll most likely sort their skills by tag and look at stuff that has a melee tag. And when you do that you'll find that there are actually a decent number of "melee" skills that see a good amount of play.

Lightning Strike, Cyclone, Flicker Strike, Consecreted Path, Boneshatter, Smite, Blade Flurry, heck even Molten Strike is at a respectable 0,6% usage on POE Ninja despite all the memes around it.

Now you'll probably say that none of those are "real melee" because of "insert reasons here" and that RT Heavy Strike using maces with 0 strike range is still a complete shit show of a build and needs buffs and it certainly is, but i honestly doubt that GGG gives even the slightest fuck about stuff like that.

Obviously this is pure conjecture on my part but it's the imo most likely explanation for why they leave melee untouched all the time. "They just don't care" and "They don't know how" are certainly possible but i don't (want to) think they are the reason.

That said, the Cleave change really made me giggle.

Maybe they think melee is fine for poe2 and dont want buff it while they try to turn down other skills until poe2.

If they had some interesting changes to announce they would probably wait for livestream next week. As it creates hype.

That being said, the sunder wave speed has me a tad interested. Might even be able to go with multistrike again if the speed is good enough. Will have to see.

as a juggernaut thats been playing the same god damn molten strike build in standard for 5 years now and watching it get nerfed over and over again, i just gotta ask, what the hell are they doing to my unbreakable ascendancy? theres nothing wrong with it. nobody complained about it. leave it alone!

ahh screw it. i just got my mageblood yesterday. ive been itching to finally put together a new build. obviously it wont be melee this time because melee builds are still clearly getting no love.

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RuneLuthien wrote:

Aren't more buff notes appearing a few days or so? Streamers say the manifesto is mainly just nerfs. Tho I don't know just asking.

There will be patch notes with other changes but frankly expect a tiny bit extra, if melee was being buffed it would be in the manifesto it will mostly be league content and tweaks that make it to the patch notes.