Crafting Feedback - 9 years of playing poe

I hate the recombinator rng bs cause i hate rng with passion

This why i never min max my builds

Cause i hate gambling

I just get the bare minimum i need on each build to enjoy my toon and the game

I have said it milllion times

I WOULD GLADLY PAY 100 EURO PER MONTH TO BE ABLE PLAY ONLY POE 3.13 RITUAL

I lost total interest for crafting in this game when Conquerors hit.

Having Elder/Shaper Influence was okay. It was like the top end of crafting. Now though the amount of layers are just comical to me and I have no interest in engaging with it anymore.

Now it seems GGG balanced the game around these systems and thus players are forced into trading or crafting since drops aren't going to happen. I went from 3-4 builds a league to 1-2 builds.

I don't play more each league which I "think" is their goal. I just play less builds which is a shame because that's one of, if not the strongest allure to this game. So I actually play less.

I like crafting. :)

Recombobbls are quite insane for mid-tier items. All my armour on the current character in sentinal is selfcrafted and while it isn't the most insane gear it is still enough to do all ubers, invitations and heavily modded elevated+winged+conquerer+100%deli maps.

The only thing I dislike about crafting is the beast mafia in temp SC trade but that issue could easily be solved by providing at least some support for trading beasts on pathofexile.com/trade similar to divination cards on the bulk exchange.

Side note: If Harvest is to be kept at full strength, items should be soulbound AND ArchNemesis should be kept at it's current power. If everyone is allowed ease of access to stronger gear, the game should be adjusted equally. Trivializing the game too much is equally as boring and as likely to kill the game.

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Scarletsword wrote:

I like crafting. :)

Recombobbls are quite insane for mid-tier items. All my armour on the current character in sentinal is selfcrafted and while it isn't the most insane gear it is still enough to do all ubers, invitations and heavily modded elevated+winged+conquerer+100%deli maps.

The only thing I dislike about crafting is the beast mafia in temp SC trade but that issue could easily be solved by providing at least some support for trading beasts on pathofexile.com/trade similar to divination cards on the bulk exchange.

i strongly agree that we need bulk for beasts and that recombinators are powerful. however i think they are not that fun and will most likely not stay in the game.



in general i also dont think that they will make items or harvest soulbound, its simply not the way poe works. i can imagine that they will nerf the rates into the ground and itemize it, or atleast give it a little QoL. but the harvest gameplay will most likely never change to be something other than a strongbox, just like synthesis never went core and now only is a single map.

I see people post in threads about harvest and crafting and they say stuff like

"They can't bring back harvest it's too OP"

"Bring it back fully but without trading"

No. Bring it back fully and enable trading or delete it fully and be done with it.

I don't care about the economy, I don't craft, and blocking harvest this league gave me a cathartic release beyond words because as noted by the OP. Harvest is terrible to interact with.

Making crafting actual crafting and not an RNG currency sink was the best thing for the game and even though I hardly touched it the fact that reasonable gear became available for many players was fantastic.

Everyone who thinks the game is better without real crafting is delusional and again I don't even do any crafting.

For clarity, I do not view rolling mods randomly as crafting. It is not and never will be crafting. It is nothing like crafting. Imagine crafting a bird house by throwing rocks at a stump and hoping for a quality outcome. That is crafting in POE.

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impulze3 wrote:

The economy is built on those who craft and sell their crafted items to those who don't. Bulk crafting, casual crafting. etc etc, its all based on crafting. You will never pick up an endgame rare from a monster. ever. You farm things, sell them and buy items from someone who crafted them or you craft them yourself.

TL:DR Empathizes Crafting is the juice of the game, and everything builds on it. Crafting is the game.

This is all fine

This is actually not fine. The game is in a dire state when crafting is the superior option. An ARPGS revolves around drops and the best items should only come from drops.

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Reinhart wrote:

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impulze3 wrote:

The economy is built on those who craft and sell their crafted items to those who don't. Bulk crafting, casual crafting. etc etc, its all based on crafting. You will never pick up an endgame rare from a monster. ever. You farm things, sell them and buy items from someone who crafted them or you craft them yourself.

TL:DR Empathizes Crafting is the juice of the game, and everything builds on it. Crafting is the game.

This is all fine

This is actually not fine. The game is in a dire state when crafting is the superior option. An ARPGS revolves around drops and the best items should only come from drops.

I agree , i love drops more than anything

Imagine all my friends make fun of me for selling my astragali and not use it on gwenen , but reason i do it is that for an item as rare as MB i want my first time to get it to be from drop ! No gwenen !

That adrenaline rush and excitement when you drop something so rare is a one of a kind feeling !!

But thats my opinion

Easy

Delete horticrafting station. Makes harvest craft use now or too bad if you change map.

Have a very different (SSF HC, only crafting so-so gear) POV than OP. But similar opinion:

1. Recombinators should go away. I dont like the extra item management. IMO the game had too much of that before and it got worse. May be a play by GGG to get more stash tab sales. So I dont expect them to remove recombinators though.

2. Harvest is too clunky as is. This would be easy to improve by just automatically putting all crafts (properly stacked, not like now) into the (then unlimited, not like now) Horticrafting station. So do away with crafting-inside-maps - IMO this is one of the worst (unfun) misfeatures in the game now. If they turn Harvest crafts into items instead they could also get more stash tab sales so I expect that to be more likely to happen than the unlimited Horticrafting station.