PoE, my Forever Game lost?

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Shagsbeard wrote:

You really should find out what "investment" means. I can't help you if you think that playing some video game is an investment.

My friend, and I know this would be taken in the spirit I mean it if we were sitting at a bar just knocking a few back, but you brought up the word investment, did not clarify what you meant by it when I asked, and still ignore the basic fact that any hobby requires an investment. The payoff has to be greater than the investment, which I guess in this case is simply time.

To be frank, you seem to have conflated the word (that you brought up) investment with only financial implications. I am genuinely not sure what you are attempting to convey.

We're on the same team, no real need to keep this subtopic in play.

Cheers.

Games get old or you'd still be playing D2. I usually dont blame others for my problems..that said I identify with your post. Too much bloat. Too much tedium. Need a PhD in PoE.

I play a lot less than when I started.

However noobs come all the time. I build swimming pools for a living and you aint calling me but for maintenance until you buy a new house. But noobs always are.

Built it and they will come.

Hard for business owners to dial it in then.

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Killtrox wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

There's no such thing as a "Forever game". PoE will still be here if you want to play it. It's just one game in the stack. Play something else. Come back from time to time to just dick around. Quit thinking of this as an investment.

Everyone should have a forever game.

I do play other games.

I have quit from time to time, and I don't take any league too seriously.

What do you mean by investment? Isn't anything you put time into an investment?


Thanks for the feedback.

this game was great .... was....

i have 6 years poe, but after this new patch i left.
these guys are hopeless....

i would say my disappointment of poe is 2 pronged.

1 is build diversity, this actually branches to many different issues. the main issue to me is that certain builds are simply vastly superior mechanically.

the other issue is achievable goals.

playing my own custom build since forever, i was always a stone throw away from completing everything in the game.

every patch was a step towards the final completion.

when uber elder+shaper was shown i felt it was really difficult BUT doable.

when mavan came along, the amount of content that i havent completed took a huge jump.

maven invites are simply not balanced. ggg never actually address this "issue".

sirus has had have a lot complaints but almost nothing has been done to address them

GGG doubled down and introduced uber pinnacle bosses. i really do not foresee myself takin them on. its simply "not favouring" melee builds.

is GGG gonna do anything about it? i dont know, nor really care

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leto2626 wrote:

Personally I think the state of the game is the best it has ever been for me, if you don't count archnemesis mods (and even that feels very overreacted by the community).

Ah ok, sir... then GGG nerfed the AN mods 4 times already based on what....?
Even the devs contradict you thru their actions.... read thru the 008a to 008 d patch notes a bit.

When u really start thinking who PoE is aimed for,u realise its Streamers.

only streamer have hours play every day and get paid for it.

Time consumed inventory managment, require more time to play.

extreme RNG loot system, get that amazing corrupted gear % chance so low u want show off it. fit for streamers. There is Gamersforlife youtube channel that show how streamers get amazing loot what majority players never get (u can get depression watch it so care).

Difficult trading system. easy if u are streamer. people want trade with streamer to get in stream.

Stash tabs. if u watchers streamer u seen they have many stash tab.
Tis is required to craft gear and store thouse recombinator gears and chaos recipes etc...

think i missed some think else and sorry bad type :>
but i cant helpet to think tis is mainly streamers game.

PoE not bad game, its just more fitting for streamers.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

There's no such thing as a "Forever game"

Maybe, if the scope of that statement is confined to GaaS games that will poof when the servers are turned off. I have a stable of favorites that are my "Forever" games, and just as my mother will probably be rereading Dune for the Nth time when her time comes, I'll probably be doing likewise with Final Fantasy IV or something.

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Killtrox wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

You really should find out what "investment" means. I can't help you if you think that playing some video game is an investment.

My friend, and I know this would be taken in the spirit I mean it if we were sitting at a bar just knocking a few back, but you brought up the word investment, did not clarify what you meant by it when I asked, and still ignore the basic fact that any hobby requires an investment. The payoff has to be greater than the investment, which I guess in this case is simply time.

To be frank, you seem to have conflated the word (that you brought up) investment with only financial implications. I am genuinely not sure what you are attempting to convey.

We're on the same team, no real need to keep this subtopic in play.

Cheers.

I could say so much more, and probably have as someone who both invests money IRL and invested a LOT of personal resources (and money) into the future of PoE back during beta, but eh, sometimes you just gotta let the Captain speak for you.

PS my advice as the former Ruler of Wraeclast? Uninstall the game and play something else. Lots of something elses. Regain the perspective of where PoE actually stands in the larger gaming world -- it's a tiny fucking niche aimed at a fairly small group of players who probably aren't you. Play something that IS aimed at you, whoever you might be as a gamer. Or try something totally left field. And then come back when you remember you haven't played PoE in a while and don't really miss it. If it still feels like it's off the rails, uninstall again and ask Support to delete your account. That delete part is important: you can't fake catharsis. You want the weight lifted, you have to remove it for real. This has the added side bonus of REALLY discouraging any sort of ill-fated curious relapses: four standard stash tabs only? LOLNOTHANKS.

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3DNeophyte wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

There's no such thing as a "Forever game"

Maybe, if the scope of that statement is confined to GaaS games that will poof when the servers are turned off. I have a stable of favorites that are my "Forever" games, and just as my mother will probably be rereading Dune for the Nth time when her time comes, I'll probably be doing likewise with Final Fantasy IV or something.

https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1025784/Designing-Path-of-Exile-to

...'be played forever' is the rest of that URL's subject.

So sure, there's no such thing as a forever game, as Shags somewhat facetiously pointed out, but I'm pretty sure when people claim that PoE might be, they're often nodding to the GDC presentation Chris gave claiming that they designed PoE to, in fact, 'be played forever'.

I say 'facetiously' because between his pedantic 'investment' quibble and the fact that I am pretty sure he knows about that GDC presentation name and the loaded meaning of the word 'forever' here, that's exactly how it comes across. I don't get why -- dude's smart as hell and has more than enough intelligence and knowledge to contribute meaningfully to any conversation here, but I guess we all have our off-days. Me, more than most. :)

i mean you cant really "git gud" if the enemy moves so fast its impossible within human reflex reaction time.

I feel ya.

For me the content bloat is unbearable - too many league mechanics, crafting systems, item mods, item influence and so on. It's like they're hoarders - can't let go of anything, every crappy mechanic has to be added to the core.

I miss the simpler time with just life+res gear and some cool, cheap uniques.