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jewdas12 wrote:
im doubting you finished anything with this exact same setup last league without great struggles
If you ignore the gem it does 4-5mil dps so the answer is they weren't using it last time. The 30mil is quoting the damage per ignite which is a very common mistake players make I just kinda glance past it, 4mil is already enough to make bosses irrelevant (aside from the new ubers I guess)
Basically it isn't that this is a shit build OP is right that his character is stacked its just overlooking a quality bonus on a gem thats it.
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Posted byDraegnarrr#2823on May 30, 2022, 9:07:01 AM
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Pretty sure the OP is using the same build, or a very similar one to last league.
Per Chris "your 3.17 builds will work in 3.18" This is patently false, as has been evidenced by hundreds of pages of people pointing out the deep deep flaws with this update.
Dishonesty, which is what this was is the single fastest way to lose trust and confidence of the player base, which is what's happening. To put it bluntly, we were lied to, and that is not okay.
The ongoing refusal to acknowledge and repair that lost trust is what is creating havoc, both here on the forums, and on the reddit. People are pissed, and understandably so.
At the end of the day, this has less to do with the actual gameplay, and more to do with a glaring lack of communication, lack of response to players frustration and the feeling by some of why are they spending time on mtx in stead of fixing the issue's that were created with 3.18
A lot of goodwill could be regained by acknowledging, and then doing something about the pain points in this update.
For example, very few people like effigy, even less are enjoying the ground degen vomit everywhere. These two issue's could be addressed, modified of outright removed from the game and this would go a long way to repairing the anger about this update.
Improved communication from the dev team could go a long way to calming people down. Take for example the last hotfix, the forums were a gigantic flame fest leading up to the patch note preview. It at least tamped down some of the anger knowing their was something coming.
Instead of allowing the anger to build, a simple, 10 second post of "hey guys were working on some AN changes, more info to follow later today, or tomorrow" would have probably slowed down the anger some. They did not do this, I can only think to myself "they dont respect peoples anger" and that isnt okay.
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Posted byiceband12085#0769on May 30, 2022, 9:28:02 AM
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Draegnarrr wrote:
LOL If this is what I think it is
Stop using Divergent EA, build fixed
Real answer: You are using Divergent EA for more fuses but due to Ashes you are reducing fuse duration to 0.06s, as a result you aren't doing a fat 24 fuses stack you are doing single stacks very quickly.
You probably get stacks up to 6 depending on totem sync and placement time which gives you around a 500k Ignite but a long way short of what you will get without Divergent.
Also Bosses aren't taunt immune they just ignore it, Those champion nodes would be completely worthless if any bosses were actually taunt immune so don't worry about that part.
I just put on Divergent tonight actually, most of my issues were with the regular EA.
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Posted byRakie1337#5746on May 30, 2022, 10:22:37 AMOn Probation
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iceband12085 wrote:
Pretty sure the OP is using the same build, or a very similar one to last league.
Per Chris "your 3.17 builds will work in 3.18" This is patently false, as has been evidenced by hundreds of pages of people pointing out the deep deep flaws with this update.
Dishonesty, which is what this was is the single fastest way to lose trust and confidence of the player base, which is what's happening. To put it bluntly, we were lied to, and that is not okay.
The ongoing refusal to acknowledge and repair that lost trust is what is creating havoc, both here on the forums, and on the reddit. People are pissed, and understandably so.
At the end of the day, this has less to do with the actual gameplay, and more to do with a glaring lack of communication, lack of response to players frustration and the feeling by some of why are they spending time on mtx in stead of fixing the issue's that were created with 3.18
A lot of goodwill could be regained by acknowledging, and then doing something about the pain points in this update.
For example, very few people like effigy, even less are enjoying the ground degen vomit everywhere. These two issue's could be addressed, modified of outright removed from the game and this would go a long way to repairing the anger about this update.
Improved communication from the dev team could go a long way to calming people down. Take for example the last hotfix, the forums were a gigantic flame fest leading up to the patch note preview. It at least tamped down some of the anger knowing their was something coming.
Instead of allowing the anger to build, a simple, 10 second post of "hey guys were working on some AN changes, more info to follow later today, or tomorrow" would have probably slowed down the anger some. They did not do this, I can only think to myself "they dont respect peoples anger" and that isnt okay.
I used the same exact build last league, to a Tee, zero changes. Never struggled with anything whatsoever.
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Posted byRakie1337#5746on May 30, 2022, 10:23:46 AMOn Probation
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This is NOT my first time playing EA -- last league I used this to clear 100% content.
The way Ziz explained Flame Surge is it's overwritten right away by the other elemental damage. Something to do with it being a trigger or w/e, i'm not watching last leagues 30 minute video to find the clip though sorry.
I have 6 totems.... how am I missing any?
Second, why the fuck would I need stuff I didn't have last league? That's a GGG problem, not a ME problem.
This is the same exact build I EASILY finished all content with. But now nothing is taking ele damage.
Also, i have no idea where you think i'm missing totems, i'm a champ
You have ancestral but not the watchtowers on the bottom right. When I originally looked I don't believe ancestral bond was allocated.
I'm literally running almost exactly the same stuff that I ran in Archnem on the EA that she did in league and just a slightly altered tree. Unless something changed in the last few "fix" patches for sentinel, she should be as effective as she was.
But yeah there are a few key differences between my EA elementalist vs an EA Champ. I can get all hits to ignite and shock where champ relies heavily on that taunt (and not everything can be taunted).
Btw I used my EA to clear most of the content too -- she did elderslayers, feared, maven,etc etc but I still didn't risk her in something like chayula pure, a bit too slow.
And the whole point of reviewing is making sure there isn't something you missed on your end making for such a struggle. I remember my first maven shaper being hectic, but not quite 10 min, with the longest parts being the phases starting from him going immune and teleporting me out and having to slog back.
Watchtowers is allocated on my neck.
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Posted byRakie1337#5746on May 30, 2022, 10:25:02 AMOn Probation
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jewdas12 wrote:
as mentioned your build has 0.06s fuse duration, from divergent EA with ashes, and you have nowhere near as high dps are you think. if you prestack you are gonna have 6 fuses on a target at most, and if you dont you are likely to only get a single fuse and do 1/30th of pobs listed 20 fuse dps, which would be about 1 mil given you mentioned 30 mil? your build is completely bricked.
im doubting you finished anything with this exact same setup last league without great struggles
I *just* put on Divergent to try it a bit before logging out. It's only level 19, pretty obvious I'm not using that full time.
Like... the level of stupidity here, is astounding.
How about some critical thinking... You really think i'm running around full time with an underleveled gem but a 50ex ammy? Fucking really? God damn...
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Posted byRakie1337#5746on May 30, 2022, 10:27:24 AMOn Probation
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Draegnarrr wrote:
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jewdas12 wrote:
im doubting you finished anything with this exact same setup last league without great struggles
If you ignore the gem it does 4-5mil dps so the answer is they weren't using it last time. The 30mil is quoting the damage per ignite which is a very common mistake players make I just kinda glance past it, 4mil is already enough to make bosses irrelevant (aside from the new ubers I guess)
Basically it isn't that this is a shit build OP is right that his character is stacked its just overlooking a quality bonus on a gem thats it.
I put it on to try it out right before logging out. It's only level 19, very obvious I'm not running around with that full time --
Thank you for bringing some common sense to the discussion -- foolish of me to forget the gem in my bow
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Posted byRakie1337#5746on May 30, 2022, 10:30:58 AMOn Probation
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I swapped regular EA in on PoB and I couldn't find any reason your build shouldn't work as advertised OP so i'm fairly confident its the gem, even if you were messing up EE or something like that it wouldn't make bosses take forever just a bit longer.
You've got exposure, enough attack speed for a 20 stack, covered in Ash, Flamesurge breaks EE but you just have to shoot frenzy afterwards then its back on. Everything here looks legit to me
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Posted byDraegnarrr#2823on May 30, 2022, 10:39:55 AM
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Draegnarrr wrote:
I swapped regular EA in on PoB and I couldn't find any reason your build shouldn't work as advertised OP so i'm fairly confident its the gem, even if you were messing up EE or something like that it wouldn't make bosses take forever just a bit longer.
You've got exposure, enough attack speed for a 20 stack, covered in Ash, Flamesurge breaks EE but you just have to shoot frenzy afterwards then its back on. Everything here looks legit to me
As I already stated many, many, many times. I was NOT using this divergent gem, at all, under any circumstances for bossing -- it's not even max level. I put it in, did a quick map in which I noticed no difference, and logged out.
My normal gem is 21/20 Explosive Arrow.
I can't possibly make this anymore clear.
My issue was a regular old maven witnessed Shaper. Could barely scratch him. It was infuriating. This was not the case last league whatsoever. Things insta phased in 3.17
Hell this time I even have a second curse, adding in elemental weakness + Flammability, and flame surge, covered in ash, scorched, etc etc etc.
This character is a little less geared than my one last league, but identical in most respects... except it no longer melts things.
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Posted byRakie1337#5746on May 30, 2022, 10:54:14 AMOn Probation
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Rakie1337 wrote:
Watchtowers is allocated on my neck.
Ah, you're right - I missed that. Character screen doesn't show it (tho it shows a few things that shouldn't be selected and I never bothered to load the character in PoB.
With that said, the times I have struggled with damage on EA ballistas, most were doing expedition stuff where I selected one or more of the following:
Increased attack/spell block - blocked means less arrows for the ignite
Ignite immune - most of the damage is in the burn so no burn is bad juju
Avoidance - I may have a guaranteed ignite but there's no arrow if its avoided
And that more or less applies to map mods too. Accuracy and blind can be an issue.
As far as Maven Shaper goes, she does grant temp immunity and I don't know how strong her boss heal is atm.
Try running a reg shaper and then run a maven shaper to see if its just with Maven or if its really just shaper alone.
Yep, totally over league play.
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Posted bySeCKSEgai#6175on May 30, 2022, 4:20:17 PM
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