The reason GGG doesn't really pay attention to these forums

I haven't made a spell suppression build yet, now I've not done the new uber bosses yes but you've been fine in HC without suppression the whole time. You probably want something to reduce big elemental hits sure, I always end up going +max res for whatever reason (the tree nodes not melding all 90).

I think +max is a little bit underrated, you reduce spells by less sure but it works on attacks and degens which is pretty huge IMO.

Spell Suppressions primary advantage for the serious HC racers is you can get it capped on gear alone which is a wonderful defence for 4 suffix slots essentially. It makes it slightly more awkward to gear but that tradeoff is hard to beat, its kinda like running determination right now.

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trixxar wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

Bruh you can beat Maven with 10ex gear on Tectonic Slam, on Creamtion you need even less budget. Cobra Lash? Take any tri-ele (or dex stacking) ST build, slap Cobra Lash on it and it will be just as good (except with less single target because ST hits twice).
Chain Hook was always a meme so dont even metnion it.
You are talking like Maven is some insane challenge that is impossible to beat. Last League I literally one-shoted Maven with ~10 ex Death Wish build (and by one-shot I mean literally one hit to phase her)

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I mean, play what you want, its just a little much to pretend to be a hipster-build maker who is not bound by the meta.

But whatever, this conversation is going nowhere. Bunch of people following the meta saying "there is no meta, you can do anything with any skill".

Ok, guess you made those builds completely on your own without observing that they were strong from anyone, just happened to be all the same meta skills on the same meta builds. That makes sense.

I think this is certainly a good example of why GGG has come to the conclusion that it is SAFE to ignore the feedback on its forums.

If people are content to be sheeple and play the game that way, and pay their special stash tab tax periodically, then GGG makes bank. It really is that simple.

And if people are rushing to the forums to defend that business decision and go out of their way literally to attack anyone who challenges this status quo (the OP being an illustrative example), then they have no reason or need to defend their own poor design decisions.

I walked away from the game largely because I have never had any interest in playing the meta du jour, and the relative disadvantage conferred upon people with that particular view was quite large. I am assuming it still is quite large, though if someone can make a reasonable argument for that not being the case, I might be tempted to return.

Obviously, I am not holding my breath.

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Filousov wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

Slap Voidforge + Abyssus with any decent gear in other slots and you have ~20M DPS on pretty much every melee skill out there with like 30EX budget. Add Omni and you will reach 100M+, but that requires much bigger budget (didnt last league tho)

But like this is not much viable for HC or is it?

I dont play HC so I dont know, but probably not. Game isnt balanced around HC.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

I haven't made a spell suppression build yet, now I've not done the new uber bosses yes but you've been fine in HC without suppression the whole time. You probably want something to reduce big elemental hits sure, I always end up going +max res for whatever reason (the tree nodes not melding all 90).

I think +max is a little bit underrated, you reduce spells by less sure but it works on attacks and degens which is pretty huge IMO.

Spell Suppressions primary advantage for the serious HC racers is you can get it capped on gear alone which is a wonderful defence for 4 suffix slots essentially. It makes it slightly more awkward to gear but that tradeoff is hard to beat, its kinda like running determination right now.

That I have tried, but it has several problems to my opinion:
1) It's really hard to get all 3 resistances to 90 max res (I think I have never achieved that) and much harder at start of league
2) And for -max res maps you actually take more dmg from spells even with 90 max res - suppose -12.5 max res map mod (so that it counts nice):
a) Spell suppression with 75% res - you take 0.25 (not resisted) * 0.5 (spell supression) * 1.5 (accounting -12.5 max res mod) = 0.1875
b) 90 max res - you take 0.1 (not resisted) * 2.25 (accounting -12.5 max res mod) = 0.225

This is whopping 20% more dmg taken and harder to gear up. So where is the advantage?

Nothing to do with the quality of posts. I've played many multiplayer games, and in non of them devs paid any attention to the official forums. That's because Reddit is just more popular than official forums and devs hang out there - because reasons.

And apparently even Reddit's 'sheit' posts doesn't stop them to pay attention to Reddit. Like the first few days of this League there were only complaint topics in PoE's Reddit.

At least they pay attention to reddit, there are some devs/admins that visit only their "page" at FB/Twitter and ignore both Forum and Reddit.

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Filousov wrote:

This is whopping 20% more dmg taken and harder to gear up. So where is the advantage?

Trolling? You setup a strawman around a map mod you don't even have to run when there is an equivalent map mod for spell suppression, i highlighted some strengths your mileage my vary but this isn't an argument or even a discussion its X is this, Y is this make of it what you will.

If you think every HC build requires spell suppression be my guest :p

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Draegnarrr wrote:

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Filousov wrote:

This is whopping 20% more dmg taken and harder to gear up. So where is the advantage?

Trolling? You setup a strawman around a map mod you don't even have to run when there is an equivalent map mod for spell suppression, i highlighted some strengths your mileage my vary but this isn't an argument or even a discussion its X is this, Y is this make of it what you will.

If you think every HC build requires spell suppression be my guest :p

Ah, ok that explains it. There is also suppression mod on map. So basically it's only gearing argument which is the problem. And maybe the fact that with melee you have to come close to those spell casters.

But back to the main topic. Maybe they are paying attention to this forum. The problem is that there is no communication from their side. Like no GGG staff replies to the topics. Nothing even for this that they have seen it!

I suspect the real reason is they already know most of what people don't like, but they either don't care or they care but they have priorities ahead of it.

It's not like the 500 page Harvest thread was a mixed bag, it was over 90% very negative. Same with trade thread, etc.


The only way to vote is with money, not with a forum essay. Pay for the leagues where they make decisions you think are good, don't when they don't.

I can promise you they are listening to that.