So 3.17 is now the league with the highest peak and worst retention in the history of POE

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jaytea89 wrote:

Catering to 12 incel sweatlords who spend a few thousand bucks is a pretty stupid way to run a business.

You're right.

Good thing there are a lot more than 12 people in the world who don't want a cookie clicker, I guess.

Getting paid by GGG?

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Vesuvius079 wrote:

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Marxone wrote:

1. atlas passives are not so easy to just swap to promote variety in gameplay. So I'd be stuck with what ever tree, maybe do one significant change during the league (like 50-100 point change)

I have to disagree here. I played this league SSF and the tree is so easy to respec if you buy the orbs from vendors. The game tosses out a ton of the small currencies that can be converted to unmaking orbs.

That said, I also moved on after hitting my challenge goals because you have to strive for something in a game like this.

this is what I've got during my effort to get to my 36 challenges. Maybe I play different game and my client does not spit currency on every corner.

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Marxone wrote:

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Vesuvius079 wrote:

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Marxone wrote:

1. atlas passives are not so easy to just swap to promote variety in gameplay. So I'd be stuck with what ever tree, maybe do one significant change during the league (like 50-100 point change)

I have to disagree here. I played this league SSF and the tree is so easy to respec if you buy the orbs from vendors. The game tosses out a ton of the small currencies that can be converted to unmaking orbs.

That said, I also moved on after hitting my challenge goals because you have to strive for something in a game like this.

this is what I've got during my effort to get to my 36 challenges. Maybe I play different game and my client does not spit currency on every corner.

that seems really off,i havent play for over a week and i respect my tree (avg respec 50 points) every 2-3 days

i still have

Ye, I don't like to grind without purpose, so I don't offset bad RNG with numbers.

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Marxone wrote:

Ye, I don't like to grind without purpose, so I don't offset bad RNG with numbers.

Spoiler

Complete Trials of Ascendancy in Maps (4/50)
Complete maps with 4 Sextant modifiers (9/300)
Defeat Archnemesis monsters in an area of level 83 or higher (170/1,000)
Defeat Elder or Shaper Guardians in maps (27/100)
Defeat Elderslayers in maps (19/100)

maybe the archnemesis counter is the reason
i did a lot of those especially

innocence+brine king+abberath+treant horde (i probably horrible misspelled the names)

btw this combo regualry droped exalted orbs
sure there a good amount that didnt drop 1 exalted orb,but some droped even 3 or 4 (counting all 4 drops not just the final fight)

even without the exalt lots of divine,chaos and probably regret and unmaking but i didint track these since i kinda always had "enough"

I gave up interacting with the league mechanic as the GUI is just awful. SO other than purposefully going for challenge I just skip those.

from about 8 attempts to do the easy Mirror+Treant+ass+Rejuv I've got 1 exalt and 1 divine orb all together. I guess I am on the non streamer loot.

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Marxone wrote:

I gave up interacting with the league mechanic as the GUI is just awful. SO other than purposefully going for challenge I just skip those.

from about 8 attempts to do the easy Mirror+Treant+ass+Rejuv I've got 1 exalt and 1 divine orb all together. I guess I am on the non streamer loot.

the key for it to work is as much "rolled additonal times" + amount of item

mirror treant ass reju simply isnt good because of that reason

its like rolling a dice and only the hights rolled number counts
just rolling it twice means

a 1/36 chance to roll a 1 instead of 1/6

or

a 3/4 chance to roll atleast a 4

if you add a 3 roll it gets even more crazy

a 1/216 chance to roll a 1

or

a 7/8 chance to roll atleast a 4


getting an exalt from archnemesis by far isnt the best roll you can get as reward,sure its at the upper end but it isnt the best

thats why innocence + brine king + abberath + treant horde is so good


at step 3 you already get 8 currency only rewards rolled 10 times + 12 (? not sure how many treants are there but i believe it was 4)

going this route means you dont have to interact so much with the mechanic either,because you are kinda bottlenecked by frenzy/sentinel
this isnt a bad thing,atleast it wasnt for me

edit
plz correct me if my math is off,havent done this type of math for a long time

However that combination is far far into tiers + combinations.

Lets say I did maybe 200 maps T16+ during the whole league (i really don't grind) - getting Innocence which is T4 and requires parhaps 9 or 10 "inbetween" steps to complete within maps (got Innocence once for achieve), other steps also are T2-T3 which means I could do that combo maybe once every 30-40 maps with good rng / doing the right layouts for the right components.
The "low tier" combo can be used every 10 maps perhaps collecting towards other components.

That's unfeasible for me with my volume of gameplay to focus on more expensive play.

This has been a great league that I played for 2-3 weeks. I'm satisfied.

After 9 years playing Path of Exile and considering the way I play (choose a build category I know fairly well, play trade league and tunnel vision the new content/Bosses until I'm satisfied) I don't believe they could design a league that would retain me for any longer than 2-3 weeks.

I also don't try and push a build to its limits. I get it to a point where it feels good T16 alch and go and it kills the new content / Bosses.

So other than PoE2 - 2-3 weeks no-lifing the new league is plenty of PoE for me until go next.