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If u want to be a special snowflake u need to invest more time and/or be good at the Game. Thats true for every game with build diversity.
At least if u want to complete the whole game and do Engame Content with it.
And there is always a Meta in every Game with Build diversity/choices.
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Posted byVepa#4873on Mar 7, 2022, 12:06:02 PM
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
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Andreuswolf wrote:
The existence of "suitable" and "unsuitable" builds is a problem in itself. There shouldn't be such a thing as an "unsuitable" build in Path of Exile.
People often make this mistake.
No mistake. I'm correct.
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Posted byAndreuswolf#0361on Mar 7, 2022, 1:48:43 PM
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Andreuswolf wrote:
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
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Andreuswolf wrote:
The existence of "suitable" and "unsuitable" builds is a problem in itself. There shouldn't be such a thing as an "unsuitable" build in Path of Exile.
People often make this mistake.
No mistake. I'm correct.
No, you are not, for reasons I already explained in the part of my quote you chose to omit.
Player agency is important, especially in games where players have creative control over how their in-game avatar develops and evolves. Removing all fail states removes this agency, and would turn Path of Exile into a game it was never intended to be (and in a very real sense, was directly created NOT to be).
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
Wrong.
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Posted byAndreuswolf#0361on Mar 7, 2022, 2:20:57 PM
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Andreuswolf wrote:
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
Wrong.
Please, explain to me why I am wrong. Use your words, like an adult. "NUH UHH" is not a valid form of argument; if the viewpoint you seem to feel so passionately about has actual merit, let's discuss it. And while you're at it, ask yourself: if you can't come up with any cogent justifications for the things you believe, maybe you shouldn't believe them at all?
This isn't Reddit. You really need to do better if you want to be taken seriously.
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Oh so how about you try one of the following builds:
Champion Molten Strike: deletes the entire game and immortal - Poeninja playrate: 0.2%
Champion Spark: Deletes the entire game even harder - Poeninja playrate 0.7%
Necro FR: Clears the entire game on a 5ex budget and is also probably the most complicated build in the game - Poeninja playrate 0.04%
I guess the problem has three aspects to it:
- The game is too hard
- Necessary gear is too hard to acquire
- The game is too complicated
"Easy" leagues are ones where one or more of those aspects is easy. Harvest league was easy because acquiring gear was relatively easy. Legion league, I don't know about, because I didn't play it, but probably was easy because the enemies weren't as buffed as now. Other leagues (mostly older ones) were easier because the game just didn't have as much stuff to it (Pantheon powers, ascendancies, cluster jewels, the latest revamp of the skill tree... but also ways of crafting gear like tailoring orbs, essences, veiled chaos orbs, lots of things were added that make the game just simply more complicated. Not necessarily a bad thing, but the fact that some of those things are so powerful they are almost mandatory is at least potentially problematic.
You can combat all of the difficulty aspects in this game:
- Cheesy mechanics make the game easier
- Farming hard and buying gear makes gear easier to acquire
- Following guides makes the game less complicated
But what about those that want to play what they feel like (not cheesy mechanics), don't want to play the game like it is work (not farm hard), and make their own builds (not follow guides)? For them, this game has little to offer at the moment, unless you invest a LOT of time into it. And that lots of time has to be in a limited window of time, as well, given that the game resets (effectively even on Standard) every three months.
As for your Necro FR, can you play that without a guide given that it is "the most complicated build in the game"?
This deserves more eyes on it. Great points.
“Not a single item of importance [in the news]. A tower of illusion, all of it, made of illusory bricks and full of holes. If life were made up only of important things, it really would be a dangerous house of glass...So everybody, knowing the meaninglessness of existence, sets his compass to home.”
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Posted bynKs#1015on Mar 7, 2022, 2:40:55 PM
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if you cant fail then theres no point and its not a game, its just a doll dressing simulator.
what gives builds and the game as a whole meaning is that theres a challenge to overcome. theres no way you can win if theres no way you can lose.
I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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Posted bySnorkle_uk#0761on Mar 7, 2022, 2:59:36 PM
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
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Andreuswolf wrote:
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
Wrong.
Please, explain to me why I am wrong. Use your words, like an adult. "NUH UHH" is not a valid form of argument; if the viewpoint you seem to feel so passionately about has actual merit, let's discuss it. And while you're at it, ask yourself: if you can't come up with any cogent justifications for the things you believe, maybe you shouldn't believe them at all?
This isn't Reddit. You really need to do better if you want to be taken seriously.
Dood, don't fight with him. He made topic about exp penalty. He dying tou much of not capped resistances so game is bad and exp penalty is bad. His account is from 2016. How he didn't reach endgame yet is crazy.
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Posted byNasusPodInta#1947on Mar 7, 2022, 3:30:04 PM
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
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Andreuswolf wrote:
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
Wrong.
Please, explain to me why I am wrong. Use your words, like an adult. "NUH UHH" is not a valid form of argument; if the viewpoint you seem to feel so passionately about has actual merit, let's discuss it. And while you're at it, ask yourself: if you can't come up with any cogent justifications for the things you believe, maybe you shouldn't believe them at all?
This isn't Reddit. You really need to do better if you want to be taken seriously.
You're both expressing opinions.
Telling another player that their opinion is wrong comes across as rude and conceited, hence why you're arguing.
Just agree to disagree and move on...
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Posted bySighted#2345on Mar 7, 2022, 3:33:08 PM
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
Please, explain to me why I am wrong. Use your words, like an adult. "NUH UHH" is not a valid form of argument; if the viewpoint you seem to feel so passionately about has actual merit, let's discuss it. And while you're at it, ask yourself: if you can't come up with any cogent justifications for the things you believe, maybe you shouldn't believe them at all?
This isn't Reddit. You really need to do better if you want to be taken seriously.
Why do you think you're entitled to my time?
Your attitude sucks and I'm not getting paid to explain this to you.
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Posted byAndreuswolf#0361on Mar 7, 2022, 4:34:02 PM
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