Negative Feedback on the rewards of the new bosses from a long time player
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Update 3.18:
Well they made it even worse. The bosses added in 3.17 and especially their drops are imo the worst aspect of the game right now. Every build is either using the Exarch or Eater amulet, as well as melding. If you aren't trade league your whole purpose in the game is running white/magic maps as fast as possible to ramp up the Influence counter to be able to fight one of the bosses. When you arrive at the boss you play the 1 in 50 lottery -> fail and go again. In trade league you do the same or you just pay the people doing this. If you aren't using one of the new amulets your build is inferior to others or you play one of the 2 builds that don't need it. If you're unlucky you are going to run multiple thousands of maps without even getting a single drop from the boss. My Experience: I got really really lucky and received an omni from my first exarch, which made me reroll. The next item i wanted is melding of the flesh, so i started farming Eater of Worlds. I have leveled my character to level 100 in ssfhc now, by only running to the map boss on normal or magic strand/park maps and killing a few mobs on the way. I have ran over 50 Eater of Worlds and have gotten jack shit at all. If i wouldn't have rolled the 1 in 50 (?) on my quest exarch: well, fuck me. The strength of those amulets is just straight up bad design. I'm already hyped for gauntlet, watching people farm omni, rolling the dice to "win" a race in this game, or not, if they are playing a bugged skill. -----> The bosses and items need to change <----- Here's bossloot from around 60 eater of worlds , lost count lol (1680maps)
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*imagine a lot of bows and boots here* Feedback in 3.17:
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I have never left any feedback on the game, so this is something that is really bothering me.
The new "pinnacle" bosses drop absolutely nothing of worth. I'm currently playing SSFHC and have been grinding the new bosses for days and days non stop, while receiving absolutely nothing of worth from either their mini-bosses, or themselves. I never had this problem with any other boss in the game. Every Boss had a well balanced loot table on their release. They became outdated over time, but at their release, every boss felt rewarding in some way. The new "pinnacle" bosses are the first bosses, that feel immensely less rewarding, than, for example, even super old content, like the Elder or Shaper (or even Atziri, lol). I defeated the Searing Exarch once and the Eater of Worlds 8 times, running the boss invitations rare. The Miniboss Invitation i just ran blue, because they don't drop anything anyways, some people even questioning why i run these mini boss invitations at all. From all those runs i literally got nothing. Zero. Running the influence for the new bosses has become frustrating, at best. The best item i got from the bosses was 1 Exceptional Influence Orb, which resulted in 10% increased Mana Recovery on my chest. Because i vendored the last uniques i got from the Eater of Worlds ( because why waste stash space for the bow or boots, not a single person uses those uniques anyway ) i have pretty much nothing to show in terms of sick boss items for 252 maps run (besides 2 absolutely useless uniques, which will rot in my unique stash and 10% increased mana recovery on my chest). Of course, i have been exceptionally unlucky, but no matter how bad or good my luck is, this is much harder to happen on any other boss in the game, as they generally have much better designed uniques, than the new bosses. Sure i can run Sirus and he drops a pair of gloves, which brick after using 1 vaal orb. But this won't happen 9 times, and even if it does, Sirus still has a chance of 100% to drop influenced items, which have the ability to be a nice crafting base. The same goes for Maven. You literally can't really get bad gear from her, as the helmet and boots, which are supposed to be the "bad loot" are well designed and useful. Update: Because i thought it is fair, after defeating the Eater of Worlds 10times, which results in 280 run maps, i got the first unique drop, that isn't vendor-worthy: twitch.tv/nex1233 steamcommunity.com/id/nex1233 discord : nexx#9045 Last edited by nex1233#3067 on Jun 4, 2022, 9:10:08 AM Last bumped on Jun 4, 2022, 11:02:06 PM
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Meanwhile I ran 2 white elder guardian maps and got 4 fragments + 2 twisted maven invitations. Kek
Last edited by Johny_Snow#4778 on Feb 20, 2022, 10:46:29 AM
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+1
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Have you considered SSF is for masochists, and that the bosses drop stuff meant to be traded away?
I recently defeated an exarch and got a Forbidden Flame jewel that had no personal value to me (Master of Metal for duelists only), but I sold it for 15ex. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley |
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" I can definitely agree to this. It's pretty weird that you can have Maven witness 10 fights to do a mapping crucible, or 4 if you're after the guardians, but it takes 28 just to fight the eldritch bosses. It doesn't make sense. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley |
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" The most likely reasoning behind this is that it was a mean average to be able to fight Sirus... which on its own was a stupid grind as well. Next up: fight our new unrewarding boss after completing the entire atlas and then re-doing all bonus objectives to fight it again! Sitting in HO spamming alts for 4 hours straight is peak PoE gameplay. Thanks, Chris.
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" They are a waste of time. All the old bosses are still more rewarding than the new bosses. This means they will nerf old boss loot pool most likely, not fix the new shit bosses (sirus still buggy) |
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" This is the 2nd time in a row the Exarch dropped me a valuable jewel. This one is around 20ex. Let's not say the new bosses are less rewarding than the new ones. The Elder's unID ilvl85 Watcher's Eye is worth 1ex by comparison, not accounting for cost to fight them compared to it being free for the new bosses. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley |
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Does it actually take longer to farm an Exarch/Eater fight than it used to take for Maven? Because I've heard more than one person saying this, but I'd honestly say it feels about the same to me. But admittedly, I never counted my maps between Mavens so I genuinely don't know. It's probably a psychological thing where it feels longer because you've got the wheel on your Atlas very slowly ticking up to 28, instead of the old Maven situation where you'd get to fight her as soon as you assembled an invitation which dropped as fragments from the Crucible fights you did more regularly. But 30-ish maps sounds about right.
BOTH are definitely much faster than spawning Sirus, and managing Elder Influence was pure garbage because it was almost blind luck but if you got incredibly lucky and Shaper didn't inconvenience you a single time Elder was still 22 maps between spawns, at a minimum. So we'll call that "about the same as the new bosses" too. |
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" And why are these jewels so expensive? Because they are incredibly rare. You being lucky doesn't count. |
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