Lost Ark is POE Killer

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yamface wrote:

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alhazred70 wrote:

For "endgamers" its an MMO theme park that starts at lvl 50 made for normies who want to pretend to be gamers. The same types of people who think WoW "gear scores" are the pinnacle of game design.

i love how you desperately try to shit on this game when LA's endgame is a million times harder than any of the rubbish poe throws at you

i doubt you even try end game in LA but if you can you let us know how much did you pay for it to be an end game player in LA?


ps: actualy i even doubt you played end game in POE. all this nonsense coming from people who never support this game or newbie who doesent even know what they are talking about. Let assume you didnt like poe because its hard but your logic with LA is harder (LA end game is huge P2W or in the other hand you need more then 2 years to make your equipment for end game but if they put new equipment you will never catch this end game without paying).
i think i will start to shit on LA forum how this game is good it cost me only few min.

Can we get back to debating waifus? That was more fun. :p

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dragomirrr wrote:

ps: actualy i even doubt you played end game in POE. all this nonsense coming from people who never support this game or newbie who doesent even know what they are talking about. Let assume you didnt like poe because its hard but your logic with LA is harder (LA end game is huge P2W or in the other hand you need more then 2 years to make your equipment for end game but if they put new equipment you will never catch this end game without paying).
i think i will start to shit on LA forum how this game is good it cost me only few min.

Ok, this is getting ridiculous, so a bit of info from someone who played both, but played PoE a lot more and cleared endgame in it several times.

PoE is not a hard game to play. At all. It is a hard game to gather all the knowledge about, since it barely explains anything, has a ton of contradicting wording and hidden systems, which, on top of that, get shuffled every league with balance reworks and changes. You "beat the game" at building stage. Once your build is set, you farm currency to get it to endgame status, and then you faceroll the game.

One of the reasons why I stopped playing PoE was because of how mindnumbingly boring it was at endgame. I would just faceroll maps holding one button, ignoring practically any mods combinations, insta phasing bosses or exploding those without phases in seconds, dodging one-shots here and there with near infinite dashing that you have in PoE. This low effort, low involvment gameplay combined with visual clusterf8ck of effects and enemies on screen (in particular in juiced maps), performance and network issues just made the game not enjoyable. Oh and let's not forget unsatisfying loot. A random urn can drop an exalt, and endgame boss can drop an 8c unique. Vast majority of my gear was purchased, not crafted or dropped in game (but I think I got lucky and dropped my bottled faith, dont remember at this point).

So yeah, PoE can be considered a difficult game, not in terms of mechanical or gameplay sense, but knowledge sense. Actually playing the game with the right build is extremely, and I do mean extremely easy, doesnt get less low effort than that. And the more powerful you become, the easier it gets.

LA is reverse of that. Sure, you get gear upgrgades and all that MMO gear lvl system crap, however the new content and raids that you unlock become progressively harder and more demanding. So while you can carry older content that you "overgear", your current content is harder than it ever was before. And at the pinnacle of it of course are gear equalized hell mode raids which only a tiny portion of players can complete. So the game is mechanically much more challenging than PoE at endgame, this is not even a subject of a debate.

And regarding P2W, yes, LA is P2W because you can buy upgrade mats, gold and a bunch of other stuff with real money, which sucks and I hate it. However, "2 years to reach endgame"... what?? I played this game super casually since last September (on RU), and by casually I mean I did the story with all side quests, reading all story text and watching all cutscenes, while reading no guides and not rushing in any way, while playing a couple of evenings a week, and not even every week. With all that. I reached the beginning of endgame raids in about 6 months, and that's with barely playing the game by MMO standards. I mean, one of LA streamers reached endgame in Amazon version (admittedly it has a lot less endgame content right now) without paying any money whatsoever in about 10 days... And unlike PoE, the game doesnt hard reset your progress, doesnt throw your favorite builds and items into a trashcan, doesnt reset your atlas and jumble your passive tree around, and doesnt try its best to force you into a 3 month hamster wheel race every 3 months. What you farm and unlock stays with you and stays relevant. What peoeple farmed 3 years ago in terms of account progression (when the game was in its shittiest state in Korea) is still relevant today.

Funny, huh? A P2W Korean MMO grinder respects my time and investment MORE than PoE. One of the things that pushed me away from PoE as well - I got tired of having to redo and remake my passive tree (often changing it drastically as well), rebuy gear because my old stuff is broken or obsolete, redo atlas completion even in Standard every time I take a break from the game and just want to play at my pace.

Metin 2 is the real PoE killer. ;)

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dragomirrr wrote:

ps: actualy i even doubt you played end game in POE

youre a funny guy

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yamface wrote:

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dragomirrr wrote:

ps: actualy i even doubt you played end game in POE

youre a funny guy

for me the only funny guy here is you :)

and for all the other funny guys there why you dont spend time on game forum which you playing

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dragomirrr wrote:

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yamface wrote:

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dragomirrr wrote:

ps: actualy i even doubt you played end game in POE

youre a funny guy

for me the only funny guy here is you :)

Let me be the funny guy now... it's not that hard to click on someones profile before accusing them of certain things lol.

Anyway, going back to the forum of the game I actually play.

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MECHanokl wrote:

Ok, this is getting ridiculous...

PoE is not a hard game to play. At all.

You "beat the game" at building stage. Once your build is set, you farm currency to get it to endgame status, and then you faceroll the game.

One of the reasons why I stopped playing PoE was because of how mindnumbingly boring it was at endgame.

I would just faceroll maps holding one button, ignoring practically any mods combinations, insta phasing bosses or exploding those without phases in seconds,

dodging one-shots here and there with near infinite dashing that you have in PoE.

This low effort, low involvment gameplay combined with visual clusterf8ck of effects and enemies on screen (in particular in juiced maps),

Actually playing the game with the right build is extremely, and I do mean extremely easy, doesnt get less low effort than that.

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MECHanokl wrote:

LA is reverse of that.

the new content and raids that you unlock become progressively harder and more demanding.

And at the pinnacle of it of course are gear equalized hell mode raids which only a tiny portion of players can complete. So the game is mechanically much more challenging than PoE at endgame

And regarding P2W, yes, LA is P2W because you can buy upgrade mats, gold and a bunch of other stuff with real money

I played this game super casually......I reached the beginning of endgame raids in about 6 months.

Funny, huh? A P2W Korean MMO grinder respects my time and investment MORE than PoE.

xD Amazing! The mixed messages are real. Respect my time! Guess he's talking for the 1%.

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dragomirrr wrote:

and for all the other funny guys there why you dont spend time on game forum which you playing

I need to spend time somewhere while stuff loads.