Lost Ark is POE Killer
" ...sorry, did I not connect my dots well enough? When in doubt, assume I am mocking PoE. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.
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" Well was over 2 months ago of quitting. No reason to remember the exact button you spammed 10,000 npcs with, the game is dying. Could be " Z " for all it matters. Still spammed npc's way more than a mobile auto pather has. While solo & alone, for 99% of players, till lvl 50. & then still alone, as you don't really need to party for events either. Was one of the first people to get eight lvl 50's. However yes I skipped most of the item lvl stuff or dungeons, for pvp arena runs. Tho from the dungeons I did do, the mobs were below average, & only the boss had strategy. Almost like LA has zero good non boss fights. All the monsters are overly easy trash mobs. So really if Lost Ark got rid of all its monsters & kept only the bosses, it would be the same game. 100 people towns with hang out fields. Witcher taverns. Free hair style options. IRO War of Emperium gvg map. https://clips.twitch.tv/ChillyFrailLobsterPMSTwin-jQe3D4Yt2ZttgsdA https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/15cetf5/new_frigid_bond_support_love_u_guys/ Last edited by RuneLuthien#3437 on Jul 17, 2022, 12:24:06 PM
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" I didn't know that. I understand it though. It is a very nice thing missing from PoE. I've played PoE almost exclusively for nine years until recently. Well except I stopped playing for a year after ascendancy became pretty much mandatory and before the big nerf to the amount of boring trap gauntlet gameplay. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired! Last edited by Turtledove#4014 on Jul 17, 2022, 7:42:42 PM
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" Hm...a good case for not being, to paraphrase the good Saint Thomas Aquinas, " a man of one game". Otoh PoE is one jealous bitch who ill favours the unfaithful so it is not as though your possibly unhealthy game monogamy is at all your fault. But yeah, Wolcen? All the red areas and all the active dodge rolls. All other shortcomings aside, it is a nice modern feature gleaned from other genres, notably MMOs like FFXIV (which no doubt pulled it from elsewhere itself). If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.
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" You know it wouldn't be so bad if the visual clutter in PoE wasnt the worst in a game I've ever seen. Honestly in some of the juiced deli content, or some atlas passive map combos, you literally cannot see what is going on. Some of the boss fights are better. Not red ground per say, but the telegraphs are clear once you know them. Bullshit the first time or so through because you dont know what's happening, but clearly it's a design decison. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
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I like the red ground boss fights of LA, heh. Mostly pvp'ed still tho. Neither was enough for me to stay. Yet I'd like if POE had some boss environment rotations, some new knockback gems, & a arena for that matter. As for the AOE screen; well I just wrote about how POE has 80% AOE gems. So I don't know where that thread went to, haven't read yet, bout to go see. I agree tho, many agree, poe prioritizes aoe way too much over 1vs1 skills. So you get aoe screens. You get better hack & slash verse monsters for poe, which is good, than LA had. However the tradeoff is POE fails at 1vs1 scenerios or 1vs1 skills. 100 people towns with hang out fields. Witcher taverns. Free hair style options. IRO War of Emperium gvg map. https://clips.twitch.tv/ChillyFrailLobsterPMSTwin-jQe3D4Yt2ZttgsdA https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/15cetf5/new_frigid_bond_support_love_u_guys/ Last edited by RuneLuthien#3437 on Jul 18, 2022, 11:41:58 AM
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" A more than fair "warning", thank you. My thought on this, I figured sure there might be better games out there but I know PoE pretty well. Most importantly I would have fun playing PoE except for the two times I've taken a break now. Perhaps I should also mention that I usually only average a couple hours of video game play per day anyway. I think that helps to keep things from getting too stale. edit: I want to cast a shout out to DarthSki44's post. His point about POE visual clutter is most excellent. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired! Last edited by Turtledove#4014 on Jul 18, 2022, 1:54:06 PM
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" agreed re DS44. It'll never not amuse me though: I distinctly remember chatting with the big man about League of Legends back in the day and how we both agreed that it was impossible for a non-fan to follow. Just a big clutter of bright effects and very fast gameplay. ...Like I said, back in the day. __ Exclusive Exiles, let's call 'em, are super common. I was never one -- I'm far too casual and, please take no offence at this, have friends who wouldn't go near it with whom I still enjoyed gaming. So as bears-deep as I got into World of Wraeclast, I never let it become my 'one book', or rather my lifestyle never allowed that. And believe it or not, that was key to me being both a big supporter AND a comprehensive source of feedback for years. Forest for trees and all that. Exactly what I tried to do with my last bit of feedback, but frankly that was about as sad as a middle aged dude going back to his high school and not realising that everything had changed. I am not sure if this is a simile, a metaphor, or just what happened. Anyway, it was my retention of perspective that enabled the support (because it always kept PoE in high regard by comparison to other games, and GGG the same in comparison to other f2p devs) and the feedback (because my observations were rarely tainted by personal interest or pursuit -- although I had my share of whinges when the nerf bus took a detour onto the footpath and turned my harmless builds into useless paste). Now if I only had a few hours of gaming a day, I most definitely wouldn't put them towards a game so utterly calibrated for people who have far more time to allocate to a game. No matter how much I enjoyed it. Objectively, it would seem to me a waste of time -- just look at whatever PoE does for 'you' as a person. Let's say you have 3 hours a day allocated to vidja games. Let's assume you want to maximise that time with as much 'pleasure' as possible, keeping in mind that 'pleasure' can include less-fluffy factors such as 'satisfaction', 'overcoming frustration', 'risk v reward' and 'pure fucking luck'. Being a man of not one game but many (or at least an adult with access to Google and a willingness to use it**) I can figure out fairly quickly that a game like PoE is aimed at people with more than 3 hours a day AND that to allocate my 3 hours to it is to run into a huge and very immediate issue: if the game is built for people with more than 3 hours a day, then there's no guarantee that my 3 hours will be full of whatever 'pleasure' the game might give me IF it is not designed to deliver 'pleasure' to someone with 3 hours to allocate. That isn't to say I'd pick a game calibrated specifically for 3 hours of play a day either. Of course not. But I suppose it's like having 3 hours a day to read and being an avid reader (which I imagine some of you are, or at least were). You MIGHT allocate those 3 hours to slogging a chapter of Gravity's Rainbow, or you might use them to read something a little less demanding but equally worthy: Discworld or somesuch. They're both legitimately tenable allocations of reading time, but of the two, one is not going to leave you wondering if maybe you needed more than 3 hours at a time to 'get' it. I mean, if Pynchon leaves your erudition wet in all the right places, have at it. But I've seen enough dissonant posts here to know that those 3 hours a day are not even close to an optimal usage of pleasure time. Kinda ironic, given how important it is to be thinking in terms of optimisation with PoE. In fact, I HAVE dropped games that I've really liked because I realised I wasn't willing to allocate enough time to them. To paraphrase a certain nine-fingered crazyfuck, you have to be realistic. 'Having the time' and 'be willing to have the time' are essentially the same thing here, and I know what I enjoy. I enjoy posting here; I enjoy watching certain types of tv shows; I enjoy mobile gaming; I enjoy single player ARPGs; and so on. More importantly, I enjoy all of those enough that I can with 100% confidence choose to ignore 'better things' over them because those 'better things' would eat too much of my time. PoE most definitely included. All respect to you, TD, but from what I've read and seen, I am not convinced that PoE is the best choice for you and your limited gaming time. Now if you say otherwise, I will drop the matter henceforth and in perpetuity. But if you cannot say otherwise, then we are back at the 'warning'. I would fear sounding like a hypocrite if I hadn't sucked it up and given PoE2022 a fair 'casual' crack, because of course I cannot be a man of many games either. There is PROBABLY a game out there that could knock one of my chosen pastimes off its easy pedestal. Probably a bunch. But the time spent looking and testing is, once you know what you truly enjoy and what maximises your pleasure time, is time wasted. I need you to know this isn't an attack or assault on you or your choices. I'm genuinely curious if you feel PoE is 'the game for you', so to speak, as a dude with either limited play or deliberately limited allocation of playtime and a long history of criticising said game very thoroughly.
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Fun little aside for you.
https://www.businessinsider.com/nearly-half-genz-use-tiktok-instagram-over-google-search-2022-7 I always suspected this, and it's why I as a Gen X 'go look it up on Encarta' veteran get so frustrated when younger people on the internet ask me what I find to be dumb questions they could easily answer for themselves. To me, 'go google it' is a legitimate response: 'please stop wasting my time and go learn something; I promise you will retain it more if you do that instead of me just telling you'; to them, it's a dismissal of engagement from someone they see as a figure of authority on the matter and extremely rude and arrogant. Fuck I'm old but damn if I don't think I'm right on this one: being told the answer is nowhere near as effective as learning it for yourself. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Jul 18, 2022, 4:10:30 PM
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" No offense taken, I always enjoy your posts. I'm flattered that you would consider this and write such a thoughtful post. I'm not playing PoE right now. I'm having fun playing Lost Ark. When I was playing PoE I usually played in standard which pretty much nullified most of the "pressure" to play more hours per day, at least for me. I mean I would occasionally binge. I played to about 26/40 challenges in a couple of leagues. Perhaps we should hang out more because it might make you feel better because I'd argue that you're not old. I'm 70 but act like a little kid. I'm getting to the age that strangers are probably starting to think I'm suffering from a severe case of dementia. :-) But my old age is catching up to me. I've become extremely allergic to sulfite, for example. So, I can't drink wine anymore. That is very sad. You can feel sorry for me for that but no need worrying about me if I start playing PoE again some day. :-D Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Fuck me I keep forgetting how old you are. It's almost like you don't have to make it your identity on here or something.
I only wish I'm able to play anything by the time I'm 70, let alone something that already blows my poor little brain to bits like PoE. I will endeavor to keep that in mind. Actually you know what? I'm sorry. I'm like fucking 25 years your junior and I have no place being so scrutinising or patronising. The internet does a real number on otherwise healthy, appropriate hierarchies. I was 18 when I first started using it and everyone mistook me for 25. By the time I was 25 I was acting like a 15 year old, and I think it took me another ten years to finally 'act my age' on here...and even then I make such a fundamental mistake as assuming everyone else 'on my wavelength' is roughly the same age as me. Christ on a carousel. But I am glad you're playing LA for now. I won't touch it for aforementioned reasons as well as a solid case of Korean MMO PTSD thanks to way too much Lineage 2 and almost too much BDO, but it looks fun for what it is. Ouch to the wine. That sucks. OTOH I imagine there are folks younger than you who have traded in their long-term booze card for a membership to painkiller paradise, so there's always that.
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Tongue firmly in cheek here. My grandmother, wracked with intense osteoporosis and crazy low blood-oxygen thanks to the vice of her generation, functionally ODed on oxycodone. It was a mercy, but it made me really take opioids very seriously, even though I later had to take a relatively mild one on and off for years for post-surgical pain.
If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.
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