Harvest nerfed once again - why just not simply delete it?

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

i think they are moving to delete it eventually.

its rubbish as a mechanic, its not really fun or engaging. people liked the op crafts, the whole build your garden idea was scraped because virtually no one wanted it, what we have now where you go in click the thing, your pc freezes for 2 seconds and then 40 over tuned mobs attempt to one shot you if you dont instantly move, no ones getting out of bed to enjoy that gameplay. its shite.


but the crafts are amazing and thats why everyone put up with it and didnt complain.


except now theyre not.




theres no reason to keep it long term. i have not found an augment since the nerf 9 months ago or whatever, i havent found a single boss monster, all the powerful mods now basically dont exist for 99% of people.

whats cool tho is swap shaper/elder frags for others, upgrade goddess offerings, add craft to your map device, swap resist A for resist B etc. theres cool little crafts that we need to keep. i think they will eventually find another way to give us these crafts and then just delete harvest completely.

i dont think they want to give it any love, imo theyre just waiting for everyone to get over it and accept that its never 'coming back'. ill be very surprised if theres harvest in poe2.

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rekikyo wrote:

People still desire the T4 stats and rerolling prefix/suffix, as well as white color/links. It's also an easy chaos roller to get some T1 stats started on an item.

People still like harvest. They just don't like how tedious and infrequent it is without having Zana multi map selection guaranteeing one.

I can guarantee also, that any person who gets an Unrequited Love is either instantly going to be a Harvest Lover or a Harvest Hater. Each Card = 30 Ex.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

i think they are moving to delete it eventually.

its rubbish as a mechanic, its not really fun or engaging. people liked the op crafts, the whole build your garden idea was scraped because virtually no one wanted it, what we have now where you go in click the thing, your pc freezes for 2 seconds and then 40 over tuned mobs attempt to one shot you if you dont instantly move, no ones getting out of bed to enjoy that gameplay. its shite.


but the crafts are amazing and thats why everyone put up with it and didnt complain.


except now theyre not.




theres no reason to keep it long term. i have not found an augment since the nerf 9 months ago or whatever, i havent found a single boss monster, all the powerful mods now basically dont exist for 99% of people.

whats cool tho is swap shaper/elder frags for others, upgrade goddess offerings, add craft to your map device, swap resist A for resist B etc. theres cool little crafts that we need to keep. i think they will eventually find another way to give us these crafts and then just delete harvest completely.

i dont think they want to give it any love, imo theyre just waiting for everyone to get over it and accept that its never 'coming back'. ill be very surprised if theres harvest in poe2.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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rekikyo wrote:

People still desire the T4 stats and rerolling prefix/suffix, as well as white color/links. It's also an easy chaos roller to get some T1 stats started on an item.

People still like harvest. They just don't like how tedious and infrequent it is without having Zana multi map selection guaranteeing one.

I can guarantee also, that any person who gets an Unrequited Love is either instantly going to be a Harvest Lover or a Harvest Hater. Each Card = 30 Ex.

they like the mods, they dont like harvest. if you took those mods away and added them to another mechanic the fans of harvest would move with the mods. ive never seen anyone say they enjoy the mechanic of the crop monster fights or stopping their mapping to deal with this endless list of stuff.

theres crafts they like, theres crafts we need to keep, but you can add those crafts to another mechanic that people actually enjoy.


ggg obviously dont want the really good crafts, target aug, target annul, add/remove, all the things people LOVED harvest for are off the table basically. aug still exists in theory, not really in practice.

my argument is what we are left with is a really poor mechanic that has some good rewards we want to keep. but what made harvest = HARVEST!!!!!! for so many people were the op mods, theyre never coming back, the reason harvest was created was to have a build ur own crop farm simulator that gave us these op mods. that was the design, both the op mods and the farm sim are gone, what we are left with is shit gameplay that provides some cool little crafts. the entire purpose for this thing to exist has gone and the useful crafts that still exist and make the game better will be much better served dished up to the player through a better gameplay experience with new mechanics.

its just a guess, but i think ggg knows this and they are slowly winding down harvest with a view to chucking it on the scrap heap in the next 18 months. if theyre not then im gonna argue they should be.

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rekikyo wrote:

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gageris wrote:

All these extra chances we already had in passives/watchstone mods/old sextants. But we no longer have rarer crafts mod :)

Harvest Only has 9% Chance to give an additional crafting mod in the current Haewark Hamlet. It has a 10% chance to Contain a Sacred Grove -ONLY IN HAEWARK HAMLET.

In other words, the tree has a net gain of 11% Additional Crafting mods.

That's about the equivalent of what 4 Watchstones gave at T1 with max rolls.

And, it has yet to be seen, but Voidstones may be craftable.....

And Again, we will also have this effect GLOBALLY. Not just Haewark Hamlet. Every Single map will get them.

P.S. I've played with rare mods like Harbingers drop rarer currency. I just got more Harbinger orbs and barely more annulment shards and ancient shards. It didn't increase Ex shards. And the tree has two new Harbinger rare mods that could be better than that; Rare powerful Harbinger boss, and dropping WHOLE currency instead of shards.