How will they nerf boneshatter?

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6_din_49 wrote:

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OneTwoTimer wrote:

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Everyone wants to play this.
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Are you talking about a melee strike skill? Really?

Can we see some videos how good this build is for clearing a T14 Tower map with 300 corruption stacks? Oh, wait, it's melee.

Hes referring to an anomaly in the system that reaches above billion dps with virtually immunity. This guide explains the mechanics:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3218440

Im currently preparing an update for the even more broken Transcendence variant.

In a game with so many mods, multipliers, buffs, debuffs and other moving parts, finding a build like this, is what's driving a lot of players. The (temporary) existence of builds like this, is a good thing IMO. But to preserve some kind of build diversity for the next league, it has to be brought down a notch or two.

Now, we all know they'll probably overdo it a bit. My guess, is that they'll target the immunity part, and not the stacks/damage.

My guess is since its tripple GGG:

- Nerf Shade Form
- Nerf self temp chains so that the buff extended duration dont apply to players anymore or is straight removed form temp chains
- Nerfs boneshatter by 20% less effectivity and introduce a cap of 20

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Feels like the new Molten Strike Jugg only better and we all know what happened to him.

They took away his Jewels and Balls or do I repeat myself. :P Either way it's shit now.

Mathil begs to differ:
https://youtu.be/0APElKQFZTc

Although he went Berserker but he played a lot with the jewels and covered the screen with his balls - yes I said that ^^

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Orbaal wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Feels like the new Molten Strike Jugg only better and we all know what happened to him.

They took away his Jewels and Balls or do I repeat myself. :P Either way it's shit now.

Mathil begs to differ:
https://youtu.be/0APElKQFZTc

Although he went Berserker but he played a lot with the jewels and covered the screen with his balls - yes I said that ^^

Any non payed exemple? A normal person that wants to enjoy the game? If u are paid to play or to defend said game I have no interest in ur opinion as its biased.

Anything can work if u put enough work on it. THis don't change the fact the process is extremely unbalanced with other skills as they require far less work to do the same job.

I bet ur using some meta build.

GGG might go overboard it tends to be their thing but honestly boneshatter shouldn't actually get changed at all, the builds entirely predicated on ignoring the downside if they fix that it fixes itself.

Also MS is shit, if you think 4.5k life Zerker doesn't mean its shit guess what it doesn't, its shit you could barely get more glass cannon if you tried :p. When you see it used on a well rounded build and it looks good thats when it isn't shit.

Mathil's famous for GC builds. Remember when every toon had Rats nest and 4K life. He has skills others dont so dont take his builds to the bank for everyone. e.g unskilled players like me. I played MS in heyday and easily beat all content in abyss SSF. Was a lot like this build... super regen, leech Jugg tank with massive DPS. Now I wont touch it with 10x the gear. Half the balls and thus half the leech

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Phrazz wrote:

In a game with so many mods, multipliers, buffs, debuffs and other moving parts, finding a build like this, is what's driving a lot of players. The (temporary) existence of builds like this, is a good thing IMO. But to preserve some kind of build diversity for the next league, it has to be brought down a notch or two.

Now, we all know they'll probably overdo it a bit. My guess, is that they'll target the immunity part, and not the stacks/damage.

I wouldn't nerf it at all. Jugg is played by 1-2% of players. Let them breath. He's notorious for poor DPS and worse defense than champion. His defenses are even worse by comparison now that everyone has access to strong armor making his endurance charge setup seem antiquated. Finally they find something good for him and nerf right away? I'd wait it out a patch or two.

But they will. They hate the jugg.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

I wouldn't nerf it at all.

Fair enough.

I just share GGG's view when it comes to defenses; the moment defenses become so strong (immunities etc) that the practical fear (read: Chance) of death is more or less gone, there's not much 'game' left. When those defenses are on top of an amount of damage that 99% of builds can only dream about, it should - IMO - be dealt with.

I respect your view - on one condition; that you've never made a complaint about balance or build diversity, as builds like this are a direct 'enemy' to both of those. You ca never have balance or build diversity in a game where extremes like this is allowed. Of course, it shouldn't be nerfed now; mid-league nerfs are bad. But to "make up for years of bad balance by even worse balance" isn't quite my cup of tea.

I suspect they will nerf shadeform, change it to say 95%(as a static number, cant be increased/reduced) or have its CD changed. If they don't nerf shadeform some other build will adopt it and just do less ridiculous damage but still be near immortal.

this will nerf boneshatter as well, since it needs the immunity to survive.