streamers drop rate easy life easy gameplay

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

the link is on page 7 but you already saw it just have no comment:)

cya

"Done", ey?

I saw your link. I already knew it before you posted it. And I've already said - several times - that we ALL KNOW that GGG can alter drop rates. It's only code, not rocket science. But the question isn't if they "can", the question (and the claim of this thread) is: Are they doing it? If your proof (or backing up) is: "I watch streams", it's so far from a proof that you'll come. Personal bias, impressions and assumptions wouldn't even make that "proof" circumstantial.

I know I'm not streamer. And I know I'm not RMT'ing. We're pretty strict in our guild, and as a leader, I've kicked out a few people for admitting to RMT. Yet, I have no troubles earning 100+ exalts. And streamers/good players play A LOT more than me, they play A LOT more efficient than me and they know A LOT more than me - so they will have ten times my wealth.

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TreeOfDead wrote:

so ALL ppl need micromanagment like was in legacy leagu?
what if they dont wanna more micromanagment that alrdy have?

If people don't "want" to take advantage of the tools/possibilities that the game provides, are they really in a position to complain? "I don't want to equip a body armor, why are my defenses so bad?"

If you need an idea of how much currency can be made this guy made over 1100ex from 250 maps and documented it all including videos of some of the runs https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/r78ulj/1100ex_profit_i_recorded_my_nemesis_4_full_juice/

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Zerber wrote:

The atlas passives give people so many options, especially with scarabs ect.

You can do super easy stuff like beast farming which costs like 6ex investment once. Still people insist on only playing alch and go and wonder why they do not make any profit.

so ALL ppl need micromanagment like was in legacy leagu?
what if they dont wanna more micromanagment that alrdy have?

btw mby add back legacy leagu if ppl think micromanagment so cool?

Its almost like you have to put in some effort to make something back.

Weird concept I know.

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Zerber wrote:

Go to youtube, search for farming strats. Go to the poe discord or TfT and ask people their. Go to twitch and ask a farming orientated streamer about what you could do with X currency investement.

If you do not want to be informed nobody can help you.

I know all the tricks. The thing is, when I come home from work, I dont want to spend an hour to trade all these small little juice-up items like scarabs, delirium orbs, sextnts, chisels, alchs that are constantly needed. When I was unemployed it didn't bother me because time didn't matter. Now it matters. And there is way too much stuff to pimp up your maps in the game. It is, like TreeOfDead said it correctly, too much micromanagement.

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Zottelfisch wrote:

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Zerber wrote:

Go to youtube, search for farming strats. Go to the poe discord or TfT and ask people their. Go to twitch and ask a farming orientated streamer about what you could do with X currency investement.

If you do not want to be informed nobody can help you.

I know all the tricks. The thing is, when I come home from work, I dont want to spend an hour to trade all these small little juice-up items like scarabs, delirium orbs, sextnts, chisels, alchs that are constantly needed. When I was unemployed it didn't bother me because time didn't matter. Now it matters. And there is way too much stuff to pimp up your maps in the game. It is, like TreeOfDead said it correctly, too much micromanagement.

thats an entirely different problem from the things the thread discuss tho. these responses about which strategies used to generate currency are to counter claims that everyone who has stuff, is cheating

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Orbaal wrote:

Its almost like you have to put in some effort to make something back.

Weird concept I know.

I would say it depends on the kind of effort you have to put in. If that kind of effort makes fun also it wouldn't be a problem. But spending hours on poe.trade to buy sextants, scarabs, chisels, alchs, delirium orbs, isn't fun for me. If I could buy these materials instantly (like streamers can because they just ask their audience), I would gladly invest way more. But my time is limited. In POE, if you invest 10x more time, you dont make 10x more currency more like 100x or 1000x. The gap between optimal play and suboptimal play has become too big.

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Zottelfisch wrote:

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Orbaal wrote:

Its almost like you have to put in some effort to make something back.

Weird concept I know.

I would say it depends on the kind of effort you have to put in. If that kind of effort makes fun also it wouldn't be a problem. But spending hours on poe.trade to buy sextants, scarabs, chisels, alchs, delirium orbs, isn't fun for me. If I could buy these materials instantly (like streamers can because they just ask their audience), I would gladly invest way more. But my time is limited. In POE, if you invest 10x more time, you dont make 10x more currency more like 100x or 1000x. The gap between optimal play and suboptimal play has become too big.

The gap between optimal play and suboptimal play was always that big.

You do not need to spend tons of time buying stuff. Buy it in bulk.

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Zottelfisch wrote:

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Orbaal wrote:

Its almost like you have to put in some effort to make something back.

Weird concept I know.

I would say it depends on the kind of effort you have to put in. If that kind of effort makes fun also it wouldn't be a problem. But spending hours on poe.trade to buy sextants, scarabs, chisels, alchs, delirium orbs, isn't fun for me. If I could buy these materials instantly (like streamers can because they just ask their audience), I would gladly invest way more. But my time is limited. In POE, if you invest 10x more time, you dont make 10x more currency more like 100x or 1000x. The gap between optimal play and suboptimal play has become too big.

You dont have to do it tho.
If you dont want to do it then dont do it.

Understand and accept the consequences, adjust your expectations and enjoy the game your way.
Its only an issue IF you compare your outcome to those who are putting in the effort, expect the same outcome but you arent willing to put in the same effort.

Managing your expectations is your job and not on the game.
You can do almost all content w/o having mirror tier gear or even multiple ex per slot anyways.
Something like 20ex will allow you to complete about 98-99% of the available content. Thats not hard to achieve and doesnt require insane micromanagement.

"Optimal play", "suboptimal play", "CPH", my ass. It's still kinda funny how people voluntarily turn themselves into bots and a game into a job. I'm glad i left all that crap behind years ago, lol.