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good old times when poe was slow... now its fastest game EVER Mercenaries master craft service Mercenaries My IGN TreeOfDead https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2037371 Vouch Mercenaries veiled crafting all service all crafts mods Mercenaries SC master craft service Mercenaries SC craft mod! Veiled crafting Service Settlers craft PM: TreeOfDead	Posted by TreeOfDead#4438 on Nov 8, 2021, 6:23:54 PM Quote this Post
" Xyel wrote: " Aynix wrote: " Xyel wrote: [ Right now, juiced up lategame maps are more than 10 times more profitable per hour than white maps, probably more. So, white maps could easily get 200 % more drop quantity, and lategame farming would still be 3 times more efficient... How about you compare alch&go white maps to alch&go red maps. Show me that "10 times more profitable". Alch&go isn't juiced maps, but even that will be orders of magnitude better in profit rate thanks to bigger mob density (way more scourge stacks), better scourge juice gains, awakened jewel drops from conquerors/sirus, endgame boss fragments/drops, full maven passives bonuses, high lvl logbooks, and everything else that's red-maps-only. For anecdotal evidence, check the "how much EX have you earned" topic - the top end of efficiency is at 150+ EX, while the casual section has nothing. Exactly, YOu compare alch&go white maps to juiced up red mpas, which is retarded. What next, comparing A1 drops to maps? Yes, fully juiced red maps will always be the best to make currency, but they also make yo uwant to kill yourself because of how much shit you need to do before you actually can run few of them. Barely anyone is running those. Vast majority of players are running "low effort low profit" content, which normally should be alch&go red maps, but not we are back to white maps being the best for that. Scourge white map to T10, enjoy rain of currency w/o any risk of failing.	Posted by Aynix#7757 on Nov 8, 2021, 6:45:22 PM On Probation Quote this Post
@gandhar0 Hunter +2 gloves and tribal fury anoint helps but yeah it's mainly whole screen AOE at break neck speeds which makes you "rich". I hate it. Combat feels so shallow. Boss fights are cool combat I like Aul he's probably my favorite but not much else. Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Nov 8, 2021, 7:23:51 PM	Posted by Aim_Deep#3474 on Nov 8, 2021, 7:19:10 PM Quote this Post
If it feels shallow you can always go slammer and press warcries and potions in synch.	Posted by Johny_Snow#4778 on Nov 8, 2021, 7:21:19 PM Quote this Post
Not sure OP knows what they're asking for, you want MORE builds to be league start meta viable, not the league start meta to be abolished (which is impossible anyway).	Posted by VolcanoElixir#1787 on Nov 9, 2021, 12:15:07 AM Quote this Post
" gandhar0 wrote: Reminds me of the Strike skill gang that opens lots of threads to be noticed. It is not 2013 anymore with lots of less monster density where it would make sense, when the game was way slower. Strike skills are one of the oldest abilites ingame (as well as honorable mentioned Spectral Throw), kept alive out of pure habbit of just having them around for no logical reason or maybe not having an idea how to make them work in modern and fast/spammy/zergy PoE. It would make more sense to improve the basic weapon range functionality and add some innate AOE to strike skills like some sorts of melee splash. Game is too fast to allow abilties to exists that can only target one enemy at a time and only be enjoyable sacrificing two support slots (melee splash, ancestral call). I lol'd at this. Strike Skills are pretty popular this league, with Lightning Strike being played by thousand. No one wants the game to be catered towards strike skills, but rather strike skills being catered towards the game, with new interesting secondary effects and maybe built in AoE on some of them (especially Heavy Strike, Double Strike and Dual Strike, where there is no secondary effect or AoE) But if someone is actually asking for the game to be "densed" down to the point of strike skills hitting one and one enemy should be viable, show me - please. I'll wait :) Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Nov 9, 2021, 1:52:30 AM	Posted by Phrazz#3529 on Nov 9, 2021, 1:51:23 AM Quote this Post
" Aynix wrote: Exactly, YOu compare alch&go white maps to juiced up red mpas, which is retarded. What next, comparing A1 drops to maps? Yes, fully juiced red maps will always be the best to make currency, but they also make yo uwant to kill yourself because of how much shit you need to do before you actually can run few of them. Barely anyone is running those. Vast majority of players are running "low effort low profit" content, which normally should be alch&go red maps, but not we are back to white maps being the best for that. Scourge white map to T10, enjoy rain of currency w/o any risk of failing. But that's the comparison between lategame and early game. I like how you realize how far apart they are, to the point where comparing it seems retarded - that's exactly the point I'm making. And as for white to red maps comparison, reds are still easily 5x more profitable than whites because of everything I listed earlier. Also, have you tried scourging white maps to T10 while running white maps? Takes way, way, way longer than when running red maps, which is a part of my point.	Posted by Xyel#0284 on Nov 9, 2021, 2:32:55 AM Quote this Post
Never league started with anything else that I've wanted to play. Uploaded an awesome Exsanguinate Freeze Explosion build on the forums - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3508506	Posted by Kiss_Me_Quick#4554 on Nov 9, 2021, 2:43:09 AM Quote this Post
league starter is a new concept? wtf	Posted by jewdas12#5648 on Nov 9, 2021, 2:49:14 AM Quote this Post
" jewdas12 wrote: league starter is a new concept? wtf My thoughts exactly. You want to play something hipster? You gotta farm. This has always been the case I believe. Maybe not during harvest when the hardest thing you needed to do was to find the grove.	Posted by Johny_Snow#4778 on Nov 9, 2021, 5:06:35 AM Quote this Post