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" LowestOne wrote: You can be 60/50 with 37 passive points and a shield with 30 block on it (and cruel lab). At that point, you get 600 ar/ev from gladiator, which is more than you get as a champion. With more than 50% evade chance, you'll be taking less damage from attacks than if you were 75% block. The armour effect is basically doubled (as I understand it), so you'll be taking less physical damage when you get hit as well. 100% suppression is not out of the question, especially if you take mage blood. 50% block at 50% damage is better than 75% block, as the damage you take will be more consistent. Divine shield is interesting, with good phys mitigation and the tiniest amount of ES, it will be effective against multiple small hits. There's also more sources of max res. Overall, even with nerfed block, the gladiator's defensive options have gone up. Tangently, SST may not be as easy, but what did you expect to happen after they doubled its damage last league? And how much damage you get form it? because shield builds depend of maximizing armor in the shield, not blocking or evasion.	Posted by Prionexe#7261 on Oct 21, 2021, 1:15:59 AM Quote this Post
Yeah, you lost Spell Block. However, it's now plenty easy to simply take 100% Spell Suppression instead, or just as much as makes you comfortable. Need the "block"? Well, you can grab Magebane and Acrobatics, and every Spell Suppression node in between. It doesn't appear that hard to get 75% Spell Dodge now instead. Grab Versatile Combatant, and you only need 75%ish Attack Block to max the both of those Block types on top of it. Free max Spell Block from before was a joke. It was almost as easy as practically free Dodge/Spell Dodge from Acrobatics/Phase Acrobatics before. It's daunting not to be immortal, but I'm sure you'll manage.	Posted by Altemeus#7477 on Oct 21, 2021, 8:23:42 AM Quote this Post
" Altemeus wrote: Yeah, you lost Spell Block. However, it's now plenty easy to simply take 100% Spell Suppression instead, or just as much as makes you comfortable. Need the "block"? Well, you can grab Magebane and Acrobatics, and every Spell Suppression node in between. It doesn't appear that hard to get 75% Spell Dodge now instead. Grab Versatile Combatant, and you only need 75%ish Attack Block to max the both of those Block types on top of it. Free max Spell Block from before was a joke. It was almost as easy as practically free Dodge/Spell Dodge from Acrobatics/Phase Acrobatics before. It's daunting not to be immortal, but I'm sure you'll manage. Have you ever played a Gladiator Duelist Block build?	Posted by Fhrek#4437 on Oct 21, 2021, 9:03:19 AM Quote this Post
" Fhrek wrote: " Altemeus wrote: Yeah, you lost Spell Block. However, it's now plenty easy to simply take 100% Spell Suppression instead, or just as much as makes you comfortable. Need the "block"? Well, you can grab Magebane and Acrobatics, and every Spell Suppression node in between. It doesn't appear that hard to get 75% Spell Dodge now instead. Grab Versatile Combatant, and you only need 75%ish Attack Block to max the both of those Block types on top of it. Free max Spell Block from before was a joke. It was almost as easy as practically free Dodge/Spell Dodge from Acrobatics/Phase Acrobatics before. It's daunting not to be immortal, but I'm sure you'll manage. Have you ever played a Gladiator Duelist Block build? He has no Character over level 80, nor any Glads. A fact is a statement that can be supported to be true or false by data or evidence. In contrast, an opinion is a personal expression of a person’s feelings or thoughts that may or may not be based in data.	Posted by drklrd#6377 on Oct 21, 2021, 9:08:39 AM Quote this Post
https://pastebin.com/NNAkTbxR so militant faith- transcendence AND loreweave for spell damage, phys u block. sure versatile combat is bad, sure block mastery is bad, sure the numbers on block passives from shield passive are bad, 3-5 or whatever, hard to work around them, sure they nerfen all points on tree so u have to spend an extra stat that you had before, it s all nerfs all time so lets see, hf	Posted by minateck#5997 on Oct 21, 2021, 9:29:43 AM Quote this Post
" minateck wrote: https://pastebin.com/NNAkTbxR so militant faith- transcendence AND loreweave for spell damage, phys u block. sure versatile combat is bad, sure block mastery is bad, sure the numbers on block passives from shield passive are bad, 3-5 or whatever, hard to work around them, sure they nerfen all points on tree so u have to spend an extra stat that you had before, it s all nerfs all time so lets see, hf no NC viabloe lol sure u die 10 percent of time or more.. u cna try this but whatever same as bad Tempest Shield Added Cooldown Time 1.00 sec Buff Grants 20% chance to Shock enemies Buff grants +25% Chance to Block Spell Damage while holding a Shield Buff grants Immunity to Shock Removed Cost 16 Mana Base duration is 12.00 seconds 20% increased Lightning Damage +3% Chance to Block Attack Damage while holding a Shield +3% Chance to Block Spell Damage while holding a Shield Last edited by minateck#5997 on Oct 21, 2021, 9:34:17 AM	Posted by minateck#5997 on Oct 21, 2021, 9:30:20 AM Quote this Post
" minateck wrote: https://pastebin.com/NNAkTbxR so militant faith- transcendence AND loreweave for spell damage, phys u block. sure versatile combat is bad, sure block mastery is bad, sure the numbers on block passives from shield passive are bad, 3-5 or whatever, hard to work around them, sure they nerfen all points on tree so u have to spend an extra stat that you had before, it s all nerfs all time so lets see, hf I was thinking in doing it since now Block is "Lucky"... but seems to much investment, to much trouble to overcome something that was working and GGG just broke on porpuse. Love Facebreak and unnarmed builds (Hollow Palm Monk style, my favorite!) but... PoE is not worthing the time. will make a Necro Phys Vaal Skelly, complete the new map, see how it goes and wait for next league. But, thanks for the POB.	Posted by Fhrek#4437 on Oct 21, 2021, 9:36:45 AM Quote this Post
lucky is just to much for all - crit chance evasion etc, u can try with +max res .. high budget items gloves helm 1h weapon chest double elevated etc crit, accuracy, chaos resist, 2 years and 10 mirrors invest, 10 mil dps	Posted by minateck#5997 on Oct 21, 2021, 9:49:54 AM Quote this Post
Versatile Combatant has no target demographic. * No point in picking this if you don't overcap. So non-blocking focused builds won't pick this. * Pure shield builds don't want to cap at 50/50. Instead they will go with Tempest Shield, cluster jewel passives, and item mods to get 75/70. Gladiators 85/70. * Dexterity builds can go spell suppression instead of spell block, and keep 75 block attack (on top of evasion). * Intelligence classes won't come all the way down here to pick VC. They have spell block passives at the top of the tree. Last edited by Shenafu#5341 on Oct 21, 2021, 5:59:22 PM	Posted by Shenafu#5341 on Oct 21, 2021, 5:55:18 PM Quote this Post
rip Versatile Combatant	Posted by ariyako#7104 on Nov 18, 2021, 5:32:06 AM Quote this Post