Diablo Clone very unlikely to live to long.. Gameplay is way off. Feedback. (outdated)

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xxnoob wrote:

But...PoE has better graphics, less cheesy voice acting and writing, animations is the only thing you can argue that PoE is doing worse.

No way. D3 has *far* better graphics than PoE. Far, far, far. I only played the beta and I can still say that with a crazy amount of certainty. Take into account the menu screens, the ui, the character animations, the monster variety, the variety of settings, the details, the effects, the cut-scenes...it's not even a competition.

Animation is a part of graphics, by the way. When people review, 'graphics' is where you'll see discussion of animation.

PoE does a LOT of things worse than D3, technically speaking.

So what?

D3 is shipping without PVP, which means when it gets patched in the classes will be horribly balanced and there will be many nerfs and balancing issues. When I heard that it was shipping without PvP it was a facepalm moment. I don't know what they're thinking...the reason for Diablo 1 and 2's longevity is competitiveness and player vs player action, specifically the non-consensual variety. They are going to dumb down Diablo like they did WoW (from what I've heard, I was never a WoW player but my GF was).

I played Diablo 2 from launch to 1.13c on and off. I have a level 90 sorceress on the current classic ladder that was the last character that I've made. I have friends that are hardcore players that are bummed about D3 not having PvP at launch or PKing in general. I'm going to try to get them to check this out.

It's almost finished DLing...I'm getting myself hyped up. I put Lion King on for my daughter so she won't be aggroing me for a bit!

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Tagek wrote:

If you actually read my post you would see I called digibucc's particular post stupidity, not the post of the guy who got offended.

Again, read.

Not offended, just confused. Thanks for clearing it up, regardless.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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xxnoob wrote:

But...PoE has better graphics, less cheesy voice acting and writing, animations is the only thing you can argue that PoE is doing worse.

No way. D3 has *far* better graphics than PoE. Far, far, far. I only played the beta and I can still say that with a crazy amount of certainty. Take into account the menu screens, the ui, the character animations, the monster variety, the variety of settings, the details, the effects, the cut-scenes...it's not even a competition.

Animation is a part of graphics, by the way. When people review, 'graphics' is where you'll see discussion of animation.

PoE does a LOT of things worse than D3, technically speaking.

So what?

I disagree, D3 has worse graphics. It's smeary and splotchy like an oil painting by a 10 year old, in contrast to PoE's crispness. Plus, it completely messes up the contrast on my monitor, with no setting to adjust it. PoE's engine behaves much nicer and doesn't screw anything up like that.

Heck, I think Diablo 1 has better graphics than Diablo 3. Then again, I also think Diablo 1 has better graphics than Diablo 2. Eh.

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Silty wrote:

I disagree, D3 has worse graphics. It's smeary and splotchy like an oil painting by a 10 year old, in contrast to PoE's crispness. Plus, it completely messes up the contrast on my monitor, with no setting to adjust it. PoE's engine behaves much nicer and doesn't screw anything up like that.

Heck, I think Diablo 1 has better graphics than Diablo 3. Then again, I also think Diablo 1 has better graphics than Diablo 2. Eh.

Okay, you're comparing design decisions, not graphical achievement. I feel like we've traveled a whole year in the past and we're arguing D3's aesthetic direction all over again. No, just no. D3 was perfectly crisp on my screen, all aesthetics aside. The multitude of touches, details, atmospheric elements blitzed anything in PoE, regardless of any sort of design decisions.

As for what it did to your monitor, I cannot begin to express how little relevance that has to my point.

Remember that I am speaking purely about technical aspects here -- I clearly feel that Path of Exile is graphically more pleasing myself, but that's not the point. And if we're talking about technical aspects, then unfortunately there's no fair way to bring D1 into play. It didn't have the best graphics for its time (though they were very good) so to compare them to a game 16 years newer is very unfair.

It's like saying Return of the Jedi had better visuals than Revenge of the Sith. Better movie? By many accounts, absolutely. More APPEALING visuals? subjective. Better visuals technically? uhm, nope. Sorry. Maybe if you want to talk relatively, sure, but that really complicates things.

Let's not do that.

Let's stick to what I said, with which you are disagreeing. And what I said not only that D3 has better graphics than PoE, it does a lot of things better than PoE, technically speaking.

So let's speak technically, and let's take into account which of the two is made by less than 20 people total and which has an art department of well over that number. Not to mention which has the budget...etc.

Seriously, if you take off any sort of bias-glasses and disregard aesthetic subjectivity, it's very difficult to argue that Diablo 3 has worse graphics than Path of Exile.

Don't see why anyone would make that argument, but noob did. So I responded.

So it goes.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

As for what it did to your monitor, I cannot begin to express how little relevance that has to my point.

Sure does. If you're trying arguing technical merit, then Diablo 3 falls flat on its face there. It fails the most basic of technical requirements that a game engine should follow.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

So let's speak technically, and let's take into account which of the two is made by less than 20 people total and which has an art department of well over that number. Not to mention which has the budget...etc.

The only thing the size or budget of the art department does, is make it easier to pump out large amounts of "content". Not necessarily making it better. Oh, and maybe the textures will have a higher resolution if you zoom in on them. Big whoop.

With software, there's even less benefit. Throwing more coders or money at an engine doesn't necessarily make it better.

Historically, the best engines were mostly made by a talented individual, such as id's John Carmack, Unreal's Tim Sweeney, and Duke Nukem 3D's Ken Silverman. GGG may or may not have such an individual in their team, who knows.

Knowing how large gaming companies like Activision tend to run, they probably have 20 underpaid and naive code monkeys who are overworked and fatigued so hard that they make a mistake every 5 minutes, all due to outdated and greedy project management philosophies.

PoE just feels like a much more solid engine to me. You are really overstating the benefits of a large budget when it comes to game development.

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Bigtqb wrote:

The potions make no sense either... why do i have like 5 or 6 slots for potions that refill AND it only reloads one at damn time and barely my health ones...

Play a little more until you can actually grasp the mechanics of potions and how it applies in this game. I suppose to you it makes sense that a health orb drops randomly when fighting monsters in D3.

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Bigtqb wrote:

Also the combat is way off I cant even hit my damn target right without it moveing every damn time or missing a slight bit.... makes no sense for a miss on my skills either.

Enjoy your poor hitboxes in D3 then

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Bigtqb wrote:

I dont know but this game wont be better then Diablo 3 but its a good attempt, and for 20 bucks or 10 you cant go wrong but I got 60$ so its all good. I want good gameplay but this feed back to help them out so....

$60 for a game that they will continue to profit from AH. Blizzard is greedy and doesn't care about its customers, and continues to grab people like you because of its reputation from a game made 12 years ago...
However this game is FREE from developers who actually listen to the community. The game is far from finished fyi, so don't quickly judge it inferior to an overrated d3.

Soo ,all d3 lovers and PoE haters ,are here no more :)Community can continue improving now

Shame, I missed the trolls.

Clearly I am trying to fill that void.

don't worry, I'm still around. More or less.