Aurabot fix/nerf is months off

I feel like most of the people proposing "solutions" to aurabots would just end up back on the forums complaining about how the changes crippled their solo character. all these suggestions oriented around making auras or reservation reduction weaker would break too many other things that are working fine, if you're mad someones gun holds more bullets than yours you don't solve the problem by having them shoot you in the feet with their extra bullets

all they need to do is make other player characters (and other players minions, but not your own) in your party benefit less from auras than the aura user. they could even reduce shared effectiveness for each aura you stack to make supports choose between sharing one or two stronger auras or a bunch of weaker ones

Ah, they kept nerfing skills and now they've finally reached the point where stacking auras became stronger than bulking up your attacks.

This just seems like another one of those issues that GGG creates because they refuse to change the core mechanics that greatly encourage people to play OP/FotM builds.
You can't just keep covering the hull with band-aids, you eventually have to replace the ship.

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elemental_oasis wrote:

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Spamming 3x1 point voices is really the problem because it enables +300% increase aura effect.

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seriously? you clearly don't understand aurabots.

i have one 5-point voices and 2 large cluster jewels, and I am at 400% for all auras and 450% for 4 offensive auras.

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InsiderTradingX wrote:

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elemental_oasis wrote:

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Spamming 3x1 point voices is really the problem because it enables +300% increase aura effect.

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seriously? you clearly don't understand aurabots.

i have one 5-point voices and 2 large cluster jewels, and I am at 400% for all auras and 450% for 4 offensive auras.

I only include "xx% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills" in my math because they increase both offense(universal) and defense. The only important notables are replenishing presence and First among equals the rest are garbage dead notables. You cannot reach 300% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills using 7 medium cluster jewels.

Before accusing me of not understanding aurabots, show me the math if you can reach 300% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills with your 2 large cluster jewels and 5-point voices amounting to 7 medium cluster jewels.


here is my min-max aurabot using 2 large cluster jewels, one 3-point voice, and a timeless jewel. It has 19 reserved skills. I cannot even reach 300% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills.

https://pastebin.com/dhWyGVzu

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elemental_oasis wrote:

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InsiderTradingX wrote:

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elemental_oasis wrote:

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Spamming 3x1 point voices is really the problem because it enables +300% increase aura effect.

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seriously? you clearly don't understand aurabots.

i have one 5-point voices and 2 large cluster jewels, and I am at 400% for all auras and 450% for 4 offensive auras.

I only include "xx% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills" in my math because they increase both offense(universal) and defense. The only important notables are replenishing presence and First among equals the rest are garbage dead notables. You cannot reach 300% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills using 7 medium cluster jewels.

Before accusing me of not understanding aurabots, show me the math if you can reach 300% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills with your 2 large cluster jewels and 5-point voices amounting to 7 medium cluster jewels.


here is my min-max aurabot using 2 large cluster jewels, one 3-point voice, and a timeless jewel. It has 19 reserved skills. I cannot even reach 300% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills.

https://pastebin.com/dhWyGVzu

there are other timeless jewels that give you more aura effect. besides, 300% aura effect is nothing, 400% is where you want to be as aurabot and stacker atleast.

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elemental_oasis wrote:

so many salty, hateful, and envious players channeling their jealousy on group plays by hating aurabots that they came up with ridiculous solutions when there are only 2 simple solutions:
1.) set the large voices jewel limited to 1 use only OR
2.) cap the aura to 200-250%.
Spamming 3x1 point voices is really the problem because it enables +300% increase aura effect.
these salty people will still complain about aurabots even if the aura build will not use cluster jewels simply because they hate other players playing in groups.

Yes, every sole player should be jealous, fateful, and angry.

Because for a 6-players team, they just sacrifice 1/6 group DPS to build a aura stacker, and then get 500%+ DPS and defense back.

It's totally UNFAIR mechanics.

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impulze3 wrote:

there are other timeless jewels that give you more aura effect. besides, 300% aura effect is nothing, 400% is where you want to be as aurabot and stacker atleast.

really, and you can build that without spamming 3x 1-point large voices? show me with 128 passive points or 123 passive points.

I will only believe you if I will see a +300% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills without spamming large voices

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smtad wrote:

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elemental_oasis wrote:

so many salty, hateful, and envious players channeling their jealousy on group plays by hating aurabots that they came up with ridiculous solutions when there are only 2 simple solutions:
1.) set the large voices jewel limited to 1 use only OR
2.) cap the aura to 200-250%.
Spamming 3x1 point voices is really the problem because it enables +300% increase aura effect.
these salty people will still complain about aurabots even if the aura build will not use cluster jewels simply because they hate other players playing in groups.

Yes, every sole player should be jealous, fateful, and angry.

Because for a 6-players team, they just sacrifice 1/6 group DPS to build a aura stacker, and then get 500%+ DPS and defense back.

It's totally UNFAIR mechanics.

you are a solo player and you compare yourself to a team then it's only natural that you will feel cheated and disadvantage. Maybe you should compare yourself to other solo players so that you will not misplaced your competitive instinct.

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elemental_oasis wrote:

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impulze3 wrote:

there are other timeless jewels that give you more aura effect. besides, 300% aura effect is nothing, 400% is where you want to be as aurabot and stacker atleast.

really, and you can build that without spamming 3x 1-point large voices? show me with 128 passive points or 123 passive points.

I will only believe you if I will see a +300% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills without spamming large voices

ofc you can reach 400% without 3xx 1 passive voices, i am playing a build that uses 3p voices and has 400% :)

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impulze3 wrote:

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elemental_oasis wrote:

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impulze3 wrote:

there are other timeless jewels that give you more aura effect. besides, 300% aura effect is nothing, 400% is where you want to be as aurabot and stacker atleast.

really, and you can build that without spamming 3x 1-point large voices? show me with 128 passive points or 123 passive points.

I will only believe you if I will see a +300% increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills without spamming large voices

ofc you can reach 400% without 3xx 1 passive voices, i am playing a build that uses 3p voices and has 400% :)

can you please share your POB so that I can manually calculate the total increased effect of non-curse auras from your skills