Is there drop level restriction for specific divination cards or just area restriction?

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DajDwaZlote wrote:

Maybe I'll put some context.

I was about to try farm Temple of Atzoatl for The Sacrifice card. And I was targeting Quarry for fast Alva spawn. According to poedb this card have DropLevel 80. So it shouldn't drop in area below level 80, and would make Quarry farm meaningless for that reason.

Since there is no confirmation from GGG that drop level is a thing for divination cards I don't know if I will be unlucky or just wont drop below area level 80.

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DajDwaZlote wrote:

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aggromagnet wrote:

Of course level matters for div card drops. Nearly everything in the game is gated by area/monster level. And in this case, they're definitely not going to let you farm up drop-restricted cards for the highest level hybrid base in the game, six-linked and ilvl 100, in a lvl 55 Temple or smth.

What you saying is not relevant. I said nothing about 55 Area Level Temple. Imperial Legacy was (or still is) a drop in Foothills, until apparently this patch. You can also get very early six-links from Heist.

I'm not asking for advice how to farm cards, or what GGG allows players to do. Just how relevant are drop levels from poedb, for some items are way higher, even beyond the usual drop areas.

Example:
https://poedb.tw/us/Imperial_Legacy

I started to think that poedb pulling out some junk data for one or another.

I don't see how what I said is not relevant to the situation and card you mentioned. Drop level is always relevant, for everything, except by means such as strongboxes, monster rarity, and so on that can bypass/enhance area/monster level. Since The Sacrifice is gated by both the Temple and drop level (and always has been), you're not going to get it from Temple drops if you farm Alva in story zones or low maps. /shrug

Where Imperial Legacy is concerned, if they did indeed give it an 80 drop level, it won't drop in low zones anymore. And Heist isn't a reliable way to gauge anything as the reward nodes operate somewhat outside of normal restrictions (it's also possible to get The Sacrifice there, by the way).

And pardon me for offering some suggestions on farming that card in the Temple. It's not a super common drop, even if your Temple is set up efficiently. I was farming it myself to do Shadowstitch corrupts, and it wasn't much fun. So, I was just trying to be helpful there. My bad.

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Imperial Legacy

Imperial Legacy is tricky as someone else claim they can drop in low level map, a wiki admin even show up a screenshot for it (and everyone know you can just throw a card on the ground to create a fake proof, but i think admin would not have that level of troll, or did he?)

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neohongkong wrote:

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Imperial Legacy

Imperial Legacy is tricky as someone else claim they can drop in low level map,

I havent played through that part of the story since last patch, but before that i have always gotten one or 2 of that card every time i level up a chacter and pass that part of the story.

Pretty sure Imperial Legacy is removed from act area

But is it really need lvl 80 or just low lvl map, i dont think the game community does really have answer

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neohongkong wrote:

Pretty sure Imperial Legacy is removed from act area

But is it really need lvl 80 or just low lvl map, i dont think the game community does really have answer

I'm 99% sure I dropped a couple of these in white-tier desert layout maps, so prolly just removed from the acts.

Nvm

Then the drop level seems tricky


The datamined 80 is wrong or GGG change the file structure that the cell that used to store drop level is now storing something else.

So that I think the Sacrifice card may drop in map level temple but may not need 80 area level

someone else updated their pypoe fork.

(you can try it at https://github.com/brather1ng/PyPoE, but i am not sure GGG will enforce their ToS to ban people in the future or not)

And according to the datamined data, the card does have drop level => 80

Just at the same time based on the experience on the Imperial Legacy, either the datamined level is wrong or something else