your Game is frustrating

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Tainted_Fate wrote:
extremely good performance, graphics, smooth and silky animations and the best combat flow, meaningful progression, adventure mode, 50+ builds to play or you can take any skill you like with legacy of dreams/nightmares.


Season 23 literally featured a bug which forced you to lower your sound channel count, otherwise game was super laggy.
There are also crashes and disconnects.

Visual style of PoE is 10 times better, do you remember the rainbow unicorn level? At least PoE is faithful to grim and darkness of Diablo 1/2.

Animations maybe are better in Diablo.

Combat is much better in PoE.

Meaninful progression, do you mean gambling with bloodshards for primal ancients? Or grinding for 1-2 months for caldesann augments to even attempt GR150, when nothing really changes except for HP of monsters?
Last edited by Tortoise_Turtle#1298 on May 10, 2021, 2:12:49 PM
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Wladicorist1 wrote:
and does not value my time




I'm glad you led with that - saved me some reading. Games are designed to be played, not 'respect your time'. Basketball, chess, tic tac toe. Designed with a purpose. Basketball could respect your time more by being a 24 minutes game, or a 12 minute game. It could be each team gets one possession - boy would that be respectful! If you think a game 'doesn't value your time' there's probably something or multiple somethings you don't get about the game.
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Tainted_Fate wrote:
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Wladicorist1 wrote:
all of the fanbois can trashtalk me now for that but diablo3 did one thing right

"one thing"? diablo 3 is just abandoned so there is no new content, but as a game, its better than poe in every possible way.

extremely good performance, graphics, smooth and silky animations and the best combat flow, meaningful progression, adventure mode, 50+ builds to play or you can take any skill you like with legacy of dreams/nightmares.

no trading, no rmt. its on completely another level compared to this mobile-style casino that doesnt respect your time.

true
and thats why i play it from time to time with a friend
i tried to convince like 10 of my friends to play poe with me
and everyone gave up because its absolutely not beginners friendly

the good thing about poe is that i just can turn it on and play
in poe on the other side its like that when a new league is about to start
"look patch notes, plan build, play build, realise that you cant achieve what you wanted, start another build, repeat until frustrated, leave
"There are Penalties in the Game, no one's complaining about them"
Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019
They could improve drop rates 10x which will make items more than 10x cheaper. You will probably still feel the same way since it will still be easier to just buy what you need instead of picking up the items yourself. It will also be harder to sell average or good items when they are so abundant. So items you find, even the good ones, will feel even more worthless.

The only way to get rid of this interaction is by disabling trade which will never happen. Or make so many items drop that everyone gets what they need without ever having to grind or trade.


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_Daybit_ wrote:
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Tainted_Fate wrote:
extremely good performance, graphics, smooth and silky animations and the best combat flow, meaningful progression, adventure mode, 50+ builds to play or you can take any skill you like with legacy of dreams/nightmares.


Season 23 literally featured a bug which forced you to lower your sound channel count, otherwise game was super laggy.
There are also crashes and disconnects.

Visual style of PoE is 10 times better, do you remember the rainbow unicorn level? At least PoE is faithful to grim and darkness of Diablo 1/2.

Animations maybe are better in Diablo.

Combat is much better in PoE.

Meaninful progression, do you mean gambling with bloodshards for primal ancients? Or grinding for 1-2 months for caldesann augments to even attempt GR150, when nothing really changes except for HP of monsters?

polish of d3 is on another level compared to poe. there are no bug-free games, but you cant even compare these games in terms of stability, performance, optimization.

rainbow level in d3 is more like trolling. poe has celestial cats, labrador dogs, clown mtx, shiny dragons and other staff, ggg has breached art-style integrity for the sake of money long time ago. and we can talk about your character is looking like garbage if you havent donated 500 bucks into the game. while in d3 you pay for the game and thats all, you make your character look cool with transmogrification.

combat in poe is pure trash, absolutely zero visual clarity, you cant see shit, you cant see mobs, skills, corpses, in endgame you just explode the whole screen and proceed, yeah what a "combat". in d3 you can see whats going on, you can clearly see every single attack of every single mob, and the combat itself brings much, much more satisfaction.

now when you've started talking about progression I saw that you havent played tha game on some decent level. there are several meaningful progression systems and caldesanns are one of the easy one, you literally can make full augs in a few days. paragon is another story, but its good because its not casino-shit like path of exile crafting, you play more, your character is getting stronger.

not talking about poe doesnt have any competitive system whatsoever. in d3 you always have ladder and you can push it. yes, with meta builds, but you can farm t16 on any build you like.

and again, you PLAY the game. no fucking trading, no rmt, no scammers, no discord for crafting and tons of other services, no 10 tabs opened in browser on other screen. poe is a giant unplayable mess, and from what i've seen, poe 2 will be ideologically the same trash, because the developers have outdated rudimental vision of the game and we can tell this clearly by reading their "manifestos".
dead game
bring back 3.13
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Tainted_Fate wrote:
now when you've started talking about progression I saw that you havent played tha game on some decent level. there are several meaningful progression systems and caldesanns are one of the easy one, you literally can make full augs in a few days. paragon is another story, but its good because its not casino-shit like path of exile crafting, you play more, your character is getting stronger.

and thats the problem
you can literally "play" poe without even enter one single map
you can start trading and never leave it by flipping
thats why bli$$ removed the auctionhouse
in diablo3 most of the time you just "play" and kill monsters
in poe its a different story
"do a map-pickup stuff - sort the inventory and stash tabs which takes a up to 2-3 minutes sometimes if you dont know what item is worth what - repeat"

otherwise
on what you said i cant agree more
"There are Penalties in the Game, no one's complaining about them"
Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019
Game's frustrating af for non hc players
Most builds are extremely hard to gear for endgame content -> not much actual diversity
And there's too much content piling up
Could SSF be somehow less frustrating?
@Tainted_Fate Absolutely true, total visual chaos, even with "z" pressed, on many occasions because of all the item "beams" there is ZERO vision and good luck avoiding Cold DoTs on the floor in Delirium fog for for example.
I don't like D3, quit it after RMAH went down, but you nailed it well when it comes to the mess PoE has become.
PoE - Place of Economy
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Tainted_Fate wrote:
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Wladicorist1 wrote:
all of the fanbois can trashtalk me now for that but diablo3 did one thing right

"one thing"? diablo 3 is just abandoned so there is no new content, but as a game, its better than poe in every possible way.

extremely good performance, graphics, smooth and silky animations and the best combat flow, meaningful progression, adventure mode, 50+ builds to play or you can take any skill you like with legacy of dreams/nightmares.

no trading, no rmt. its on completely another level compared to this mobile-style casino that doesnt respect your time.


meaningful progression? Where is this meaningful progression... all you do is pick up items that have increasingly higher and higher numbers, that are all identical to the items before them and so on so forth... there is zero variety in Diablo 3. Zero feeling of progression. Zero feeling of power increase.

No trading? Because Blizzard couldn't make money from RMT without the fanbase getting severely pissed with them. Blizzard TRIED to make the game entirely RMT and failed miserably so instead made the game so nobody could trade at all. This encourages zero player interaction. It's terrible.

Extremely good graphics? Yeah from what... they went from beautifully dark and gothic themes. More of a horror game than an ARPG. To a rainbow coloured cartoon nightmare that's like something from a comic book. Even Jay Wilson said all they wanted to do was make a game about killing demons and that's it. Zero respect for the previous games or fans.

What does path of exile have. Better items, more maps, more content, better crafting, trading, player interaction. Overall replayability and enjoyment. Sure it's a clusterfuck in many ways but damn it's thousands of times better than Diablo 3. At least it actually caters to the original fans and respects what those people wanted from an ARPG game.
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combat in poe is pure trash, absolutely zero visual clarity, you cant see shit, you cant see mobs, skills, corpses, in endgame you just explode the whole screen and proceed, yeah what a "combat". in d3 you can see whats going on, you can clearly see every single attack of every single mob, and the combat itself brings much, much more satisfaction.


This is so true. I can't understand why so many PoE fans white-knight the combat of PoE which is exactly what you said. I spent a bit in this game because I hope PoE2 will be better.

PoE has many more builds, cool ideas and the endgame contents are updating every 3 months. Those are the strongest points of PoE. Not graphic, not gameplay. Hell, PoE was made for the hardcore playerbase who stream and RMT, so what do we expect?

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