losing interest fast...

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

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spaceace7373 wrote:

so, everything i have has costed currency to make. that does not mean i paid that as some things i got for free.

Awakened Greater Multiple Projectiles i got for free. i also traded dropped items for some of my other gear. so how does that have any bearing on earned currency

why would someone give you a 70ex gem for free? this thread is very suspicious indeed

Whilst it seems a bit odd, it's not very suspicious. When I quit last league I gifted 200ex of stuff to someone in my guild. Who's to say that isn't what happened here?

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stalkingjackal wrote:

@OP If you're having trouble surviving, you should really craft life on your boots/body armor/rings/amu instead of armor/reduced mana cost, and use lifetap support for cyclone to sustain. Your single target mostly comes from molten burst anyway, you will probably do fine with clearing even if you lose ~20% more damage from swapping it out.

Armor is kinda shit unless you stack it really high, which is not the case with your build. Also why in the world would you use immortal call instead of molten shell on a build that has a lot of armor? IC is really garbage unless you have a lot of endurance charges to spend.

hey. a constructive post that is not attacking in any way. first of all thanks for that :)

if i don't have reduced mana cost crafted, i can't attack at all even with my current mana leech with everything i run with.

life in my gear would be easy if i were able to afford that particular gear with life on it. life is a huge expense and i can get gear a lot cheaper without it. i'm just trying to work around what i have.

before the harvest nerf, i was working on getting life in my gear. i didn't have my atlas bonuses complete enough to unlock harvest and would only get one every hundred or so maps no matter the region or what i was doing. even had a couple guild members helping me and they said it came down to RNG and i was just really unlucky. they even gave me maps as well as letting me use their watchstones and were amazed at how little harvest i was getting with 30 maps and not 1 harvest spawned.

molten shell was discussed in the build thread i use and there was a reason to run with the gems it uses vs molten shell.

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IcedInferno007 wrote:

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Exxxiled665 wrote:

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spaceace7373 wrote:

so, everything i have has costed currency to make. that does not mean i paid that as some things i got for free.

Awakened Greater Multiple Projectiles i got for free. i also traded dropped items for some of my other gear. so how does that have any bearing on earned currency

why would someone give you a 70ex gem for free? this thread is very suspicious indeed

Whilst it seems a bit odd, it's not very suspicious. When I quit last league I gifted 200ex of stuff to someone in my guild. Who's to say that isn't what happened here?

since i have played since harvest league, this exact thing has happened a few times and i was just in the right place at the right time. thank you for that answer. if i had said that myself, they might not believe it.

edit: Awakened Greater Multiple Projectiles 5/23 is only 40ex anyway. where does the 70ex come from? the 70ex comes from 6/23 LOL

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spaceace7373 wrote:

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stalkingjackal wrote:

@OP If you're having trouble surviving, you should really craft life on your boots/body armor/rings/amu instead of armor/reduced mana cost, and use lifetap support for cyclone to sustain. Your single target mostly comes from molten burst anyway, you will probably do fine with clearing even if you lose ~20% more damage from swapping it out.

Armor is kinda shit unless you stack it really high, which is not the case with your build. Also why in the world would you use immortal call instead of molten shell on a build that has a lot of armor? IC is really garbage unless you have a lot of endurance charges to spend.

hey. a constructive post that is not attacking in any way. first of all thanks for that :)

if i don't have reduced mana cost crafted, i can't attack at all even with my current mana leech with everything i run with.

life in my gear would be easy if i were able to afford that particular gear with life on it. life is a huge expense and i can get gear a lot cheaper without it. i'm just trying to work around what i have.

before the harvest nerf, i was working on getting life in my gear. i didn't have my atlas bonuses complete enough to unlock harvest and would only get one every hundred or so maps no matter the region or what i was doing. even had a couple guild members helping me and they said it came down to RNG and i was just really unlucky. they even gave me maps as well as letting me use their watchstones and were amazed at how little harvest i was getting with 30 maps and not 1 harvest spawned.

molten shell was discussed in the build thread i use and there was a reason to run with the gems it uses vs molten shell.

that's why I mentioned the lifetap support gem which was introduced in 3.14. It let's you use life instead of mana (similar to blood magic) and also has a 29% damage multiplier and gives some extra life flask effect. Since cyclone is your clear skill and not very good for single target anyway, replacing something like melee phys with lifetap wouldn't make a big difference to your clearspeed, and this way you can get another 200+ base life on your ring/amulet slots. I think a lot of build guides have not been updated taking this gem into consideration, it's much better imo than crafting -mana cost.

And about molten shell vs IC, idk what reason the guide gives but in general for armor stacking builds molten shell is superior (especially with vaal molten shell and the vaal skill rework in 3.14). The only scenario where IC makes sense is something like jugg/chieftain who can generate endurance charges consistently.

In defense of the OP's currency combined with his lack of knowledge:

A friend of mine (playing for about 8 months now) still has very little to no idea how to actually build a char and how to make mechanics work together or what to actually look for in terms of mods or skills and supports. But....he makes 5-7 mirrors every league just by trading.

Op joined in Aug 2020 (not even a year ago).

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spaceace7373 wrote:

hey. a constructive post that is not attacking in any way. first of all thanks for that :)

My post didn't attack you, didn't stop you from attacking me though. Hypocrite much?

You expect people to help you when you're acting like you're doing nothing wrong. It's pretty obvious what you do and that you have no clue about how to actually play POE end-game, otherwise you wouldn't be here. People calling you out on that isn't an attack, it's just not what you want to hear. This isn't some personal echo chamber for you to listen to the sound of your own voice all day, you know.

This title of yours comes as no surprise to me, just based off what little I've learned about you already. Maybe you should listen to these people you're bashing, because each one of them has more POE time under their belt than a thousand copies of you. You might learn a thing or two. What do you have to lose?

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stalkingjackal wrote:

that's why I mentioned the lifetap support gem which was introduced in 3.14. It let's you use life instead of mana (similar to blood magic) and also has a 29% damage multiplier and gives some extra life flask effect. Since cyclone is your clear skill and not very good for single target anyway, replacing something like melee phys with lifetap wouldn't make a big difference to your clearspeed, and this way you can get another 200+ base life on your ring/amulet slots. I think a lot of build guides have not been updated taking this gem into consideration, it's much better imo than crafting -mana cost.

And about molten shell vs IC, idk what reason the guide gives but in general for armor stacking builds molten shell is superior (especially with vaal molten shell and the vaal skill rework in 3.14). The only scenario where IC makes sense is something like jugg/chieftain who can generate endurance charges consistently.

i see your point. but, this build is elemental damage only as right now i have 150% physical converted to elemental. removing my Awakened Melee Physical Damage Support would result in a big loss of damage as that gem is 5/20.

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spaceace7373 wrote:

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stalkingjackal wrote:

that's why I mentioned the lifetap support gem which was introduced in 3.14. It let's you use life instead of mana (similar to blood magic) and also has a 29% damage multiplier and gives some extra life flask effect. Since cyclone is your clear skill and not very good for single target anyway, replacing something like melee phys with lifetap wouldn't make a big difference to your clearspeed, and this way you can get another 200+ base life on your ring/amulet slots. I think a lot of build guides have not been updated taking this gem into consideration, it's much better imo than crafting -mana cost.

And about molten shell vs IC, idk what reason the guide gives but in general for armor stacking builds molten shell is superior (especially with vaal molten shell and the vaal skill rework in 3.14). The only scenario where IC makes sense is something like jugg/chieftain who can generate endurance charges consistently.

i see your point. but, this build is elemental damage only as right now i have 150% physical converted to elemental. removing my Awakened Melee Physical Damage Support would result in a big loss of damage as that gem is 5/20.

I have a hunch that you're following a build guide that is either outdated or not optimized. Its been a while since I played a ngamahu's flame build, but cyclone on these builds is mostly for clearing trash mobs and proccing molten burst. You can even put it on a 4l essence of horror crafted helmet. You have a legacy explody chest, so you should have no problem with your dps/clear by losing one support gem, especially on a giga dps ascendancy like berserker.

Anyway, I was just suggesting that stuff since you mentioned you are having survival issues. Berserker is pretty squishy and not having life on every piece/buff like molten shell is not usually a good idea. Another way to go would be to probably ditch that axe altogether and go the phys/impale route or a fire cyclone crit. staff chieftain. Ngamahu's is a pretty bad unique compared to some of the crazy phys dps weapons you can craft/buy.

P.S: More than 100% conversion does nothing, so you said you have 150% phs->ele conversion that is just a waste.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/bw5v6g/can_you_convert_more_than_100_of_your_physical/

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stalkingjackal wrote:

I have a hunch that you're following a build guide that is either outdated or not optimized. Its been a while since I played a ngamahu's flame build, but cyclone on these builds is mostly for clearing trash mobs and proccing molten burst. You can even put it on a 4l essence of horror crafted helmet. You have a legacy explody chest, so you should have no problem with your dps/clear by losing one support gem, especially on a giga dps ascendancy like berserker.

Anyway, I was just suggesting that stuff since you mentioned you are having survival issues. Berserker is pretty squishy and not having life on every piece/buff like molten shell is not usually a good idea. Another way to go would be to probably ditch that axe altogether and go the phys/impale route or a fire cyclone crit. staff chieftain. Ngamahu's is a pretty bad unique compared to some of the crazy phys dps weapons you can craft/buy.

P.S: More than 100% conversion does nothing, so you said you have 150% phs->ele conversion that is just a waste.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/bw5v6g/can_you_convert_more_than_100_of_your_physical/

i'm using this build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2092338. it's built around that axe. i know it's not an awesome and all powerful weapon but it's something i like.