Vaal Immortal Call for Permanent Immortality in Standard - Time to fix mechanical abuse in 3.16

Since the new league is coming soon id love to give this a friendly reminder for GGG to rework Vaal Immortal Call as promised.

Would love to use it again in leagues as a real alternative to Molten Shell / Vaal Molten Shell.

Now with enkindling Orb Vaal IC absued in standard for 100% immortal builds see reddit for concept:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/p4lg08/immortal_a_new_immortality_build_and_a_warning_to/

In short the concept is Pathfinder. Legacy Soul Catcher Flask with "Vaal Skills require 25% reduced Souls per Use During Effect" scaled with Flask effect + 2 1hand bloodstained fossil crafted weapons or a twohanded bloodstained fossil crafted weapon

Result: Vaal Skills require 100% reduced Souls per Use

Together with Endurance Charge generation (Replica Farruls Fur is just one option of many) = permanent immortality.

please fix this mechanical exploit in the coming patch

Get a life, man

this thread is literally 5 pages of you bumping repeatedly about something only you care about almost everyday lmao

haha

Just saw a guy using this skill and standing still killing everything. I think the only people who doesnt want this skill to be nerfed is the people who paid 50 ex to get one. no amount of money should guarantee immortality in a game, thats just broken design.

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kurtmanpoe wrote:

Get a life, man

this thread is literally 5 pages of you bumping repeatedly about something only you care about almost everyday lmao

haha

It s ruining STD economy

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kurtmanpoe wrote:

Get a life, man

this thread is literally 5 pages of you bumping repeatedly about something only you care about almost everyday lmao

haha

I care too.

He's being quite fair in his request, he just wants a more balanced game, not broken.

I, on the other hand, am more rigid than him, if it were up to me even HH would be eliminated from this game. The hardest content should require skill and a build forged in the player's blood and hard work, and should not be trivialized through an exploit or an item that can make us a god with little investment and almost 0 skill.

it's standard who cares its meant to be OP

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kurtmanpoe wrote:

it's standard who cares its meant to be OP

That justification did not work for aura effect stackers and it certainly wont work as a justification for an immortality exploit.

Hope anyone at GGG sees this there are plenty of possible fixes to this.

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kurtmanpoe wrote:

it's standard who cares its meant to be OP

We're are not talking about destroying things that are OP in Standard (many legacy items, which is one of the main reasons for playing Standard), we're asking to nerf an exploit which has the potential of destroying the economy and fun for Standard. Being immortal is not in the scope of what's considered desirable for a game such as PoE.

This urgently needs to be reworked for 3.16

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zzang wrote:

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kurtmanpoe wrote:

it's standard who cares its meant to be OP

That justification did not work for aura effect stackers and it certainly wont work as a justification for an immortality exploit.

Hope anyone at GGG sees this there are plenty of possible fixes to this.

Hi, guy who made the reddit post here btw,
The community_team knows about this mechanic since league start but they actively chose to not do anything about it, you may inquire why.



I had a lengthy discussion of wether this is an exploit or not with a lot of people and we came to the conclusion that all mechanics are working as implemented.

Vaal Immortal call does exactly what the gem decription says.
As long as its up, you are unable to die. Using vaal immortal call which intentionally has been left in the game as legacy item by devs works as intended. This is not an exploit

Replica Farruls does exactly what it says it does, you get endurance charges when aspect of the cat switches buffs. This is not an exploit

Flask effect on legacy soul catcher does exactly what the flask says it does, it reduces your soulgain prevention and soul cost by a percentage.
People have told ggg about this when they announced the flask effect enchant and they did nerf the soul catcher flask in league as response.

There is no exploit here, all mechanics are working as intended, this is literally just ggg letting legacy gems in the game that should have either been reworked or removed.

However i think in 3.16 they will most likely either rework the gem, disabled it or not care at all since this is standard we're talking about.

It's a good 50/50 that this will get removed or stay