Unban request for unjust banning
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Going off the ban information mentioned in this thread:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3087148/page/1 I am requesting a unban of those 20 accounts because it isn't right. The players didn't cheat since they didn't do anything outside the programming of the game. The exploit was a mistake on the parts of the devs either due to error or lack of foresight. Is this the part where GGG starts telling us if we don't play the game how they want we will get banned? Didn't you at least test the league mechanics before publishing out? I don't know the players however I'm not going to stand by while fans of the game get banned for injustice. I feel that as a player that enjoys this game I need to speak out against bad actions taken against the player base. Last bumped on Apr 22, 2021, 12:36:46 AM
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Pretty damn just fyi.
They found something in the game that was clearly not working right to produce a near infinit amount of xp and drops (not to mention the killed enemies also worked with delirium drops as well) then proceeded to abuse said found thing, empy even reported it because he knew it wasn't working right and proceeded to continue using it for 2 more hours. The ToS are pretty clear as what they were doing might as well have been duping (which by your definition wouldn't be anything outside the programing of the game) |
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" In most cases this is the stance I would take as well, however this is a little different. First reason being, this was clearly GGG's fault the exploit was something most people likely would have tried if they had a build that could handle it. Because of the second reason I am about to mention. The second reason I find this different is because of GGG's previous non action of such things has created a atmosphere of Exploit fast, exploit often. I do feel it's good they are changing that previous stance, however going full reverse isn't the way. Personally feel 2 weeks, and removal of ill-gotten gains would have been enough to send a message. On top of an announcement which would allow people to know this is something they actually act against now. |
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I don't know all the details, but if it is as Empyrian wrote that they
1. discovered the optimal mechanic 2. reported the bugs through standard channels (ie. forums) 3. pushed the exploit to the limit in another 2-3 maps for sake of exploring the extent and since the get paid for video content that is outrageous it is understandable If it is the case, +1 for unban But it is that some other party actually used this method for prolonged period of time before it got "announced" to the world, and that they never reported the exploit despite obvious error in the design, that is justifiable for ban. I represent only myself, my own thought and believes. I am individual, not a representative of the community.
I am not speaking on behalf of someone else and I don't get offended by things that have nothing to do with me. 3.13 was the golden age. |
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I don't understand how anyone familiar with the technique in question could argue that what they (the banned players) were doing was not abusing an exploit. The video the banned players themselves put on youtube even admitted as much directly.
So if the fact that they were abusing an exploit isn't in dispute... why is the ban controversial? I've heard many people saying "well GGG didn't ban people for ____ so..." but this logic fails out of the gate. First of all? It's classic Whataboutism (Tu quoque for any legal scholars in the audience), and if you EVER find yourself arguing a point based on Whataboutism you need to shut your mouth because your argument has zero validity. What someone else got away with in a previous unrelated incident has absolutely nothing to do with this exploit or what GGG's response to it should be. Secondly, this defense fails because... what's the alternative, exactly? Are you trying to say GGG SHOULDN'T give temporary bans to players who knowingly abuse exploits to gain advantage over non-cheating players? Not trying to straw man here, I'm actually asking if you think this somehow makes the game as a whole better. Because if your answer to that question isn't "yes," we're back to what I said earlier: I have no idea what you're objecting to or why. Last edited by ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 on Apr 20, 2021, 8:02:20 PM
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" Oh come on now that has been a thing in video games since the beginning of video games heh. ✰CARD✰ The Survivalist
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" Because exploits are caused by the devs and not the players. No player edited the way the game works. This was a fuck up purely on the devs part. Players shouldn't be punished because they found a mistake the devs made. Last edited by Hornybull#2281 on Apr 20, 2021, 8:32:07 PM
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Not going to happen, it is between GGG and the banned and YOUR or anyone elses input means jack shit.
Ancestral Bond. It's a thing that does stuff. -Vipermagi
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They don't have the evidence to convict the players that did it offstream. If they had, they would have done it.
Actually kudos to the streamer that reported it. IMHO I'm sure they would have preferred a lighter punishment such as voiding the character only. However that's not how currency tabs work. Such harsh sentence was necessary to ensure those wealth cannot be circulated within trade. Despite the good intention of the streamer to report it, he still proceeded to gain from it anyway so the punishment is justified. Sorry. Perhaps if there is a way to reset clean all the tabs of these convicted players they could be given their accounts back to resume this league. |
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" No one was punished for finding it, they were punished for exploiting it. |
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