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Rory
on May 8, 2012, 11:36:42 PM

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AlienFromBeyond wrote:

I'm still kind of confused, how do you detonate mines? Using the skill again? But then how do you get more than 1 mine out?

Once you've placed at least one mine, a new skill button appears floating above the others with the "detonate" skill.

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Mark_GGG
on May 9, 2012, 2:02:03 AM

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zaktansAquarium wrote:

Does this work with auras? If it does, what is the effect?

Auras, and other spells that require being turned on for a duration, cannot be put on traps or mines.

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AlienFromBeyond wrote:

How do mines work with directional spells? Traps obviously would aim towards the enemy that triggered it, but where does the mine shoot? Towards you, or perhaps the nearest enemy?

When detonated, a mine with a spell that targets an enemy will find the closest enemy within the trap trigger radius, and target that.

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on May 9, 2012, 8:39:22 PM

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SpiritOfChristmas wrote:

A bug I've found, when I tried Totem combined with Summon Skeletons gem: Totem summons minions directly in place of a monster, and if monster dies at the same time when skeletons appear, there probably will be no drop.

Sorry, I'm not quite understanding what you think the bug is? Are you saying the monsters weren't dropping items?

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SpiritOfChristmas wrote:

Also using elemental spells combined with totem support is not associated with any risk of elemental damage reflection. Methinks at least Totem should be affected.

If a totem hits a reflection monster with the appropriate kind of damage, it should take the reflected damage. Are you not seeing this behaviour occurring correctly?

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Mark_GGG
on May 14, 2012, 9:49:56 PM

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starsg wrote:

Like the link with frost wall, it would only cast in a fixed-direction.
And fireball dont auto-aim like the ice spear (according to an online friend).

Mines will auto-target, but only on things within the trap trigger radius - they can't see monsters beyond that. So both fireball and Ice Spear mines will auto-target at close monsters, but won't be able to target further-away monsters.

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Mark_GGG
on Jun 14, 2012, 11:15:27 PM

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RysanMarquise wrote:

It is rather annoying that this gem aims all projectiles in a fixed direction unless enemies are immediately near it.

I would like to see it inherent where you are aiming, allowing you to effectively 'charge' several projectiles at once using it. I understand that it might be good if done that way, but I have trouble believing that it would be 'too good'.

As it stands aiming in the same direction all of the time just feels bad.

If there are no enemies in the mine's trigger radius, it target's itself - the 'always fires projectiles in the same direction' is a side effect of how projectiles are handled when not given a direction (because from self to self isn't a direction).

It's unlikely that mines will be changed to allow you to get around the trigger radius only for projectiles by telling them where to aim at things the mines themselves can't detect.

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Mark_GGG
on Jul 15, 2012, 10:22:37 PM

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When this is fixed, they'll likely fire in random directions if they have no target in range. I agree that always defaulting to the same direction looks wrong.

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Mark_GGG
on Jul 16, 2012, 8:07:47 PM

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It is not intended to be able to completely bypass trigger radius like you are suggesting.

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on Aug 12, 2012, 9:07:25 PM

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Clock_Keeper wrote:

As to deciding a direction on activation, why not use the mouse pointer upon activating the mines? It'd help with planting spread out mines while still aiming for a single target that may not be in all their respective radii.

They are specifically not supposed to be able to aim at anything outside the trigger radius. This would be very powerful, and also make the trigger radius stat useless for many mined skills.

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on Aug 27, 2012, 1:34:06 AM

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Vipermagi wrote:

Enemy detection sounds very likely; it's detonated on command, but will trigger targeting a specific enemy.

This is correct. A trap is constantly checking it's trigger radius and detonates when a monster enters it, targeting that monster. A mine checks it only when detonated to find a target for the skill.
It's the distance a trap/mine can 'see' enemies.

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on Jan 5, 2013, 11:29:11 PM

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" AlienFromBeyond wrote: I'm still kind of confused, how do you detonate mines? Using the skill again? But then how do you get more than 1 mine out? Once you've placed at least one mine, a new skill button appears floating above the others with the "detonate" skill.	Posted by Mark_GGG on May 9, 2012, 2:02:03 AM Grinding Gear Games Quote this Post
" zaktansAquarium wrote: Does this work with auras? If it does, what is the effect? Auras, and other spells that require being turned on for a duration, cannot be put on traps or mines. " AlienFromBeyond wrote: How do mines work with directional spells? Traps obviously would aim towards the enemy that triggered it, but where does the mine shoot? Towards you, or perhaps the nearest enemy? When detonated, a mine with a spell that targets an enemy will find the closest enemy within the trap trigger radius, and target that.	Posted by Mark_GGG on May 9, 2012, 8:39:22 PM Grinding Gear Games Quote this Post
" SpiritOfChristmas wrote: A bug I've found, when I tried Totem combined with Summon Skeletons gem: Totem summons minions directly in place of a monster, and if monster dies at the same time when skeletons appear, there probably will be no drop. Sorry, I'm not quite understanding what you think the bug is? Are you saying the monsters weren't dropping items? " SpiritOfChristmas wrote: Also using elemental spells combined with totem support is not associated with any risk of elemental damage reflection. Methinks at least Totem should be affected. If a totem hits a reflection monster with the appropriate kind of damage, it should take the reflected damage. Are you not seeing this behaviour occurring correctly?	Posted by Mark_GGG on May 14, 2012, 9:49:56 PM Grinding Gear Games Quote this Post
" starsg wrote: Like the link with frost wall, it would only cast in a fixed-direction. And fireball dont auto-aim like the ice spear (according to an online friend). Mines will auto-target, but only on things within the trap trigger radius - they can't see monsters beyond that. So both fireball and Ice Spear mines will auto-target at close monsters, but won't be able to target further-away monsters.	Posted by Mark_GGG on Jun 14, 2012, 11:15:27 PM Grinding Gear Games Quote this Post
" RysanMarquise wrote: It is rather annoying that this gem aims all projectiles in a fixed direction unless enemies are immediately near it. I would like to see it inherent where you are aiming, allowing you to effectively 'charge' several projectiles at once using it. I understand that it might be good if done that way, but I have trouble believing that it would be 'too good'. As it stands aiming in the same direction all of the time just feels bad. If there are no enemies in the mine's trigger radius, it target's itself - the 'always fires projectiles in the same direction' is a side effect of how projectiles are handled when not given a direction (because from self to self isn't a direction). It's unlikely that mines will be changed to allow you to get around the trigger radius only for projectiles by telling them where to aim at things the mines themselves can't detect.	Posted by Mark_GGG on Jul 15, 2012, 10:22:37 PM Grinding Gear Games Quote this Post
When this is fixed, they'll likely fire in random directions if they have no target in range. I agree that always defaulting to the same direction looks wrong.	Posted by Mark_GGG on Jul 16, 2012, 8:07:47 PM Grinding Gear Games Quote this Post
It is not intended to be able to completely bypass trigger radius like you are suggesting.	Posted by Mark_GGG on Aug 12, 2012, 9:07:25 PM Grinding Gear Games Quote this Post
" Clock_Keeper wrote: As to deciding a direction on activation, why not use the mouse pointer upon activating the mines? It'd help with planting spread out mines while still aiming for a single target that may not be in all their respective radii. They are specifically not supposed to be able to aim at anything outside the trigger radius. This would be very powerful, and also make the trigger radius stat useless for many mined skills.	Posted by Mark_GGG on Aug 27, 2012, 1:34:06 AM Grinding Gear Games Quote this Post
" Vipermagi wrote: Enemy detection sounds very likely; it's detonated on command, but will trigger targeting a specific enemy. This is correct. A trap is constantly checking it's trigger radius and detonates when a monster enters it, targeting that monster. A mine checks it only when detonated to find a target for the skill. It's the distance a trap/mine can 'see' enemies.	Posted by Mark_GGG on Jan 5, 2013, 11:29:11 PM Grinding Gear Games Quote this Post

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