Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

I hope GGG can read this as it is not a perspective I have seen yet.

One of GGG's core philosophies is that they do not want to force players to do any particular content, this is why in all of the recent expansions, you can get their rewards in other content - eg you can get fossils from ritual, delirium, heist, blight etc, the same goes for oils, fragments, scarabs, deli orbs, and so on. It allows players to choose the type of content they want to play without missing out on much. Obviously every expansions has items you can only get from that content, but at least a significant portion of the content you can get elsewhere - eg fossils and resonators you can get in a lot of places but you have to delve for Aul's, rings etc.

This rule is true for all of the recent expansions except for one - harvest. To compound this, because harvest is so powerful you are forced to interact with it whether you like it or not. The problem is that this goes against GGG's philosophy AND it is even worse because not only are you forced to interact with harvest, you are forced to interact with the discord as well which makes things even worse. Even if they made it 100% SSF, like if you can only enter the sacred grove once and get 0 storage, it solves the discord problem but players are still forced to do harvest whether they like it or not because it is so powerful.

Now here's the problem - they only really have two options, which is to nuke it, or they could apply their philosophy and make harvest rewards available like all other rewards are. They could turn all the crafting into new currencies that are available in all other content just like scarabs, fossils, etc. The problem here is obvious, it completely and fundamentally changes the core of the game in a pretty extreme way and they are obviously not willing to do that. I think it would be interesting but I doubt they will make a change that dramatic. Personally, I have no problem with players being able to create such powerful items in a game with a resetting economy, but the discord thing sucks, I love harvest and hope they don't go through with nuking it.

Hello!

I'm somewhere between casual and wife-leaving-me playtimes (6.9k hours logged). I've never killed the Shaper, Maven or any of our endgame friends.

So here: I don't craft, I trade.
There's no way I'd waste an exalt on crafting, I need it to buy a 6L cloak of defiance or whatever my build needs.

I understand having a design philosophy, my work requires it too. That's fine.

Harvest league came up and for the first time it felt like there was a point to crafting, beyond adding resists while leveling up.

I'm not even saying don't make the changes. I'm saying these crafting options are making it fun for a player like myself. I'm not a fan of Harvest per se, but the crafting options are making the game more fun.

Fun factor is why there are that many icons under my avatar, over there ->

"We don't want to take away the feeling of closing your eyes and Exalting an item, scared to see whether you ruined it or not."

No statement could possibly underscore exactly how out of touch you all are with what the base wants

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trdelin wrote:

Imagine a game made by the people who comment in forums, it would be fucking awful.

We couldn't build a car too,but we can still recognize a shitty one when we see it. But yeah,game would be broken from day one. It would be epic.

back to "slamming exalts" will be time to uninstall ;) anyway, nice league and expansion. More type of builds and more fun, so let's destroy fun because 1% will be unhappy. Go back to metaonly. Even if i wasn't using harvest that much i feel that people who wants to do that, its fun. Didn't even see that perfect items on poe trade, so what are u talking about ggg?

This is such a fucking tone deaf out of touch change. Look how many packs I have. I have NEVER slammed an exalt on my gear. It’s not worth it. You just buy a better item. With Harvest i actually spent a lot of time crafting and improving my own gear. It was exciting and rewarding. It still costed me hundreds of exalts to put together. I tried more builds than ever and played longer than any other league. Do not make this change.

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Ruffleberg wrote:

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Unshiftables wrote:

Thanks for clarifying that I don't need to budget for a supporter pack next season.

D2:R will be the same price as a Supporter Pack for me.

I didn't buy a Ritual pack because of the atrocious texture streaming and constant crashes in the presence of other players wearing mtx.

Have fun playing D2:R which will be a 1920x1080 resolution game that is still pixelated :)
Honestly I don't know how anyone can be hyped for any Blizzard titles, these remakes are Activision's way of getting a free money grab from D2 fan wagon. They don't care about the quality of the product, they just want the money so they show you things that you'll expect to see when it releases only to be disappointed when you realize it's not how it was suppose to be when it finally does release.

I mean honestly people think because the people behind Warcraft III: Reforge's disaster were fired that everything will be fine, but who do you think approves these games. Activision owns the company and knows full well how the game is before it goes live, they just fire employee's to shift the blame.

2015 account here

ok, we lived thru that awfull door simulation league, but THIS is a low brain decision.

want nerf harvest? remove it! and remove maven content too, its useless without harvest

once you nerfed harvest(reworked tags) after original league. thats not enough you really think? its not a 2 click lego constructor anymore at current state. TFT is not a problem, its just a tool that YOU should provide for us, not community (remember times when poe.trade was more popular than official trade site? or already forgot?)


PS: stop listening to reddit. all desicions you take from there are WORST ever. they will lay you to grave. (what next worst thought you will take there? nerf headhunter? Jesus, really?)

PPS: stop moderating, start listening.

PPPS: that man who offered that nerf should be retired tommorow for not understanding literally anything about this game. thats my personal opinion, sir

Wow, I'm honestly shocked and saddened to see this change. My most played leagues were Harvest and Ritual, tinkering with item crafts, making builds that were fun. It was so liberating to craft my own items over time. Not sure if I'll play the next league with these changes. All I really have to say.

Saw this coming a mile away. GGG hates the peasants having fun.