spectre HP nerf

I'm a summoner with moderate investment (2 wands with +1 minion and +1 spell level each, +2 minion helmet, and obviously the +2 ascendancy) and my chieftains get slaughtered in A8 Sirus. Hell, T14+ maps always run a good risk of having one or more spectres dying each time I go, with Baran influence always guaranteeing that they all get wiped.

The spectre HP nerf was ridiculous. They could've lowered the HP bonus from the OP spectres like Redemption Sentries or Artless Assassin rather than carpet bombing the entire gem. I suggest giving chieftains an HP bonus so utility minions aren't completely worthless.
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Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on Feb 21, 2021, 12:55:56 PM
I`m like 6 leagues summoner alrdy.
Since game went south with overbuffs to monsters and overterfs to skills.


And can say too this league nerf to spectre lvl did it.
It was rly too much.

It should be -1 to compensate maven orbing.

Instead GGG shotgunned spactre lvl from gem by -6 nerf.
Daym. It was pure headshot.

Only tankiest spectres survived this.
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Pizzarugi wrote:
I'm a summoner with moderate investment (2 wands with +1 minion and +1 spell level each, +2 minion helmet, and obviously the +2 ascendancy) and my chieftains get slaughtered in A8 Sirus. Hell, T14+ maps always run a good risk of having one or more spectres dying each time I go, with Baran influence always guaranteeing that they all get wiped.

The spectre HP nerf was ridiculous. They could've lowered the HP bonus from the OP spectres like Redemption Sentries or Artless Assassin rather than carpet bombing the entire gem. I suggest giving chieftains an HP bonus so utility minions aren't completely worthless.


Woah, I can't believe that your 1-link spectres are dying. That is outrageous!

Also your helmet only applies +2 to socketed minion gems..your spectre gem is on your boots.
Last edited by BrettLee#6388 on Feb 21, 2021, 9:15:18 PM
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Pizzarugi wrote:
I'm a summoner with moderate investment (2 wands with +1 minion and +1 spell level each, +2 minion helmet, and obviously the +2 ascendancy) and my chieftains get slaughtered in A8 Sirus. Hell, T14+ maps always run a good risk of having one or more spectres dying each time I go, with Baran influence always guaranteeing that they all get wiped.

The spectre HP nerf was ridiculous. They could've lowered the HP bonus from the OP spectres like Redemption Sentries or Artless Assassin rather than carpet bombing the entire gem. I suggest giving chieftains an HP bonus so utility minions aren't completely worthless.


Woah, I can't believe that your 1-link spectres are dying. That is outrageous!

Also your helmet only applies +2 to socketed minion gems..your spectre gem is on your boots.


Yes, sorry, I was tired when I posted that. Must've thought about a build from last league.

Even without the +2 minion gem helm to boost it, they're a lot more fragile than they were last league. I'm way too squeezed for gem space, I can't afford to move passives to minion health without ensuring I never get to do DPS check leagues as a consequence, but this was never a problem before except for the most juiced maps with multiple elemental damage mods.

This nerf was supposed to hit people using tanky DPS spectres, but it ended up hitting everyone as usual.
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.

Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!

And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley
Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on Feb 21, 2021, 9:23:30 PM

I play elementalist, primal crushclaw +3 helmet, and yes they die now and then.
If they stick around good, if not then so be it.
No skill points and gem slots starved to keep them alive so dont bother.
they nerf the monster level from the gem , and life scale with monster level

The good old day of pm people to find shaper's realm to raise spectre

Now just rip.

From monster lvl 83 to just 72 at gem level 20
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BrettLee wrote:
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Pizzarugi wrote:
I'm a summoner with moderate investment (2 wands with +1 minion and +1 spell level each, +2 minion helmet, and obviously the +2 ascendancy) and my chieftains get slaughtered in A8 Sirus. Hell, T14+ maps always run a good risk of having one or more spectres dying each time I go, with Baran influence always guaranteeing that they all get wiped.

The spectre HP nerf was ridiculous. They could've lowered the HP bonus from the OP spectres like Redemption Sentries or Artless Assassin rather than carpet bombing the entire gem. I suggest giving chieftains an HP bonus so utility minions aren't completely worthless.


Woah, I can't believe that your 1-link spectres are dying. That is outrageous!

Also your helmet only applies +2 to socketed minion gems..your spectre gem is on your boots.


Yes, sorry, I was tired when I posted that. Must've thought about a build from last league.

Even without the +2 minion gem helm to boost it, they're a lot more fragile than they were last league. I'm way too squeezed for gem space, I can't afford to move passives to minion health without ensuring I never get to do DPS check leagues as a consequence, but this was never a problem before except for the most juiced maps with multiple elemental damage mods.

This nerf was supposed to hit people using tanky DPS spectres, but it ended up hitting everyone as usual.


The nerf was supposed to hit one of the most overpowered skills in the game. If you are using another minion skill gem as a main skill, then simply using 1-link AG/raise spectre to provide a wide range of massive buffs (or debuffs to enemies) was fucking stupid. This was incredibly obvious to anyone that ever looked at a minion build pre-3.13.

Now you have to (1) pick up at least some minion defensive nodes on the tree and/or (2) use support gems like meat shield/minion life. I don't find that unreasonable.
Last edited by BrettLee#6388 on Feb 21, 2021, 10:14:25 PM
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BrettLee wrote:
The nerf was supposed to hit one of the most overpowered skills in the game. If you are using another minion skill gem as a main skill, then simply using 1-link AG/raise spectre to provide a wide range of massive buffs (or debuffs to enemies) was fucking stupid. This was incredibly obvious to anyone that ever looked at a minion build pre-3.13.

Now you have to (1) pick up at least some minion defensive nodes on the tree and/or (2) use support gems like meat shield/minion life. I don't find that unreasonable.


Chieftains weren't overpowered. The gem nerf hit everything, including those that weren't overpowered. GGG could've instead nerfed Redemption Sentries, Syndicate Operatives, Artless Assassins, and the Harvest crabs. Hell, they also nerfed They of Tul to stop their defense buff from being OP, the same could've been done for the others.

This was a quick and lazy nerf.
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.

Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!

And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley
Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on Feb 21, 2021, 10:17:34 PM
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Pizzarugi wrote:

Chieftains weren't overpowered. The gem nerf hit everything, including those that weren't overpowered. GGG could've instead nerfed Redemption Sentries, Syndicate Operatives, Artless Assassins, and the Harvest crabs. Hell, they also nerfed They of Tul to stop their defense buff from being OP, the same could've been done for the others.

This was a quick and lazy nerf.


Exactly. The OP and many others here didn't properly research, because it wasn't just a HP nerf.

We are now forced to take yellow tier spectres into the highest content the game has to offer.

That is EXCELLENT nerfing from you, GGG. (NOT)

I started a thread, https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3008768, about this too.

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