[3.14] Curse by Walking Cursebot | 9 Curses with x3-5 Curse Effectivness | Occultist

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mosmax2 wrote:
ah no, than maybe i understand it :D

the replicas are right, they do 1 fewer curse

because the amulet adds one, malediction, passive, gountlets, boots

so one normal 1 + 5 -2 (rings) are 4 curses plus 5 from the breast

:D

Correct you have 4 curses from your curselimit and 5 from Doedre's Skin
but now i have the next thougts because the gauntlets can trigger one curse and this curse don`t count to the limit too if i`m right^^

so maybe, you can avoid the currupting from the amulet, because thats is like a casino ^^ you can win but mostly not :D
Last edited by mosmax2 on Apr 21, 2021, 11:01:04 AM
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mosmax2 wrote:
but now i have the next thougts because the gauntlets can trigger one curse and this curse don`t count to the limit too if i`m right^^


The curse cast through the gauntlet does count towards the curse limit, also because its a trigger effect socketing your Assassin's Mark in it would mean you cant cast it manually anymore
i just made the build and its fine, but i got a question do u use any gems on sword and the shield? and if not what do u recommend to use as a bit of dps in case u want to play maps alone,
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Waxeed wrote:
i just made the build and its fine, but i got a question do u use any gems on sword and the shield?

I usually run a cast when damage taken setup with Steelskin for the extra HP pool aswell as utility spells for my group such as Vaal Discipline or Sigil of Power.

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and if not what do u recommend to use as a bit of dps in case u want to play maps alone,

This build isnt really meant for solo mapping but the best choice would be probably a Hexblast or Bane setup if you really wanted to do that
How would you craft the medium cluster jewels with dark discours and forbidden words? it's pretty rare, and almost impossible to find on the trade usually, if I'm not mistaken
Last edited by EsqueletoㆍAvulso on Apr 26, 2021, 1:15:07 AM
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How would you craft the medium cluster jewels with dark discours and forbidden words? it's pretty rare, and almost impossible to find on the trade usually, if I'm not mistaken

The most reliable way would to Alteration spam to get "Forbidden Words" (about 70 Alts) then Aug it to get a suffix, after that regal and hope for another suffix (just increases the chances slightly isnt that terrible if its a prefix). Here is were it splits depending on the ilvl of the cluster, if it is ilvl 68-83 you can use either "non-Defense to Defense" or "non-Caster to Caster" ("non-Defense to Defense" is a 1 in 9 chance while "non-Caster to Caster" is a 1 in 5 chance to hit) for "non-Caster to Caster" "Whispers of Death" counts as a success alongside "Dark Discourse" . If its an ilvl 84+ only the "non-Caster to Caster" gets reliable results relativly quick, but when regaling the cluster you might hit "Added Small Passive Skills have 35% increased Effect" which is also a success. The same principle counts for buying the clusters of trade "Forbidden Word" + "Dark Discourse" or "Whispers of Death" or "Added Small Passive Skills have 35% increased Effect" is all you need. "Whispers of Death" will result in x0.09 less Curse effect, while "Added Small Passive Skills have 35% increased Effect" results in x0.09 more Curse effect then "Dark Discourse". Even if you do not get any other Passive other then "Forbidden Words" you will reach x4 Curse effect on every curse but obviously you would want more if possible
Last edited by IceMagma on Apr 26, 2021, 10:37:42 AM
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IceMagma wrote:
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How would you craft the medium cluster jewels with dark discours and forbidden words? it's pretty rare, and almost impossible to find on the trade usually, if I'm not mistaken

The most reliable way would to Alteration spam to get "Forbidden Words" (about 70 Alts) then Aug it to get a suffix, after that regal and hope for another suffix (just increases the chances slightly isnt that terrible if its a prefix). Here is were it splits depending on the ilvl of the cluster, if it is ilvl 68-83 you can use either "non-Defense to Defense" or "non-Caster to Caster" ("non-Defense to Defense" is a 1 in 9 chance while "non-Caster to Caster" is a 1 in 5 chance to hit) for "non-Caster to Caster" "Whispers of Death" counts as a success alongside "Dark Discourse" . If its an ilvl 84+ only the "non-Caster to Caster" gets reliable results relativly quick, but when regaling the cluster you might hit "Added Small Passive Skills have 35% increased Effect" which is also a success. The same principle counts for buying the clusters of trade "Forbidden Word" + "Dark Discourse" or "Whispers of Death" or "Added Small Passive Skills have 35% increased Effect" is all you need. "Whispers of Death" will result in x0.09 less Curse effect, while "Added Small Passive Skills have 35% increased Effect" results in x0.09 more Curse effect then "Dark Discourse". Even if you do not get any other Passive other then "Forbidden Words" you will reach x4 Curse effect on every curse but obviously you would want more if possible


ohh, I thought it would be harder to hit these combinations, since I rarely see them on the market, but turns out is fairly ok to hit. Thx for repling and for the extra explanation. Nice guide you got here, congrats
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ohh, I thought it would be harder to hit these combinations, since I rarely see them on the market, but turns out is fairly ok to hit. Thx for repling and for the extra explanation. Nice guide you got here, congrats

Yeah its not that hard to hit the main reason you dont see them often is that most builds dont use curse scaling so people dont really pay attention to those clusters, also most people use their Harvest crafts on equipment instead of cluster jewels. The chances are fairly good but the real problem relies more in the fact the Harvest nerfs were a bit overboard on the availability of crafts.
hi there! building this right now to play with a buddy, who would be dps, is this able to handle duo play? and for the gems in the armor you dont have to link right? even with the enhance?

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