Multiboxing rules the world!!! (the world of GGG)

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ShadyC wrote:



You can't be serious at this point.

Evidence is not even close to the same as proof.

In a court case, the plaintiff will provide evidence that the defendant is guilty. According to you, this - by definition - means that the gavel should be slammed immediately, and a sentence given to the defendant, simply because evidence was provided.


I'll say this again, since you all seem to be dodging the challenge.

Provide your evidence that multi-boxing is not ruining the economy.

(By the way, asshat, if the economy in an online multiplayer game is ruined... It would be a fair assumption to say that the game is ruined. Otherwise, we'd see an Offline Single Player Mode, wouldn't we? GGG does not intend everyone to be secluded to themselves during gameplay.)


Evidence is used to prove a point. If you want people to give a shit about your whining concerning multiboxing then you need to prove to them there is a point to it all.


I'm going to emphasize something you said for a very specific reason.

Provide your evidence that multi-boxing is not ruining the economy.

You cannot conclusively prove a negative.

If you're seeking to prove multiboxing is bad then you need to succeed at that before I worry about it. In fact, all I am asking is that you provide sufficient evidence. Our entire back and forth revolves around the fact that I am not convinced. Now, you could say that you don't care about that. If so then I would really love to know why we're going at it this way.


I am calling all of your evidence into question because it drips of bias.


Name calling is cool too, let's go there. I'm not supporting multiboxing motherfucker, I'm challenging your method.
ShadyC's insight is thoroughly lacking. As if he is entitled to be the only authority on the multiboxing subject. And he presents all his poorly fleshed out QQs as fact.

So far he hasn't showed any evidence of the benefits of multiboxing. Only QQ here. QQ there. QQ everywhere.

As opposed to ExiledtoWraeclast, who has proved in his thread that low level solo farming to be viable. He also presented evidence. You also just mentioned it. The irony. An exalt in 20 hours? I can go for weeks without an exalt drop! I solo now too, thanks to Exiled, and after a week of multiboxing, I got zero exalts, zero gcps. I got 4-5 GCPs drop already using his solo method! :D

Maybe because he has rebuffed your argument and tore it to shreds, you have deliberately and purposely ignored his thread? ;)

Also, an unintended side effect of low level rushing is I find that I am getting proficient in building up a decent low level character, quickly, which will be of immense benefit should I decide to enter a race! Thanks Exiled.

You clearly have an agenda. Suffice to say you have been thoroughly discredited. You will not be taken seriously from now on. Please try again by making a new username on the site.

Edit: you most likely multifarm, but don't want others to. Well, let's wait for your evidence. Are you prepared implicate yourself? :)
POE is a constantly evolving game, so expect balance changes, buffs and nerfs STILL!
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I agree with OP. Multiboxing is ruining the economy which then ruins the game imo. That, and almost all of my friends stopped playing the game for various other reasons, so its now getting kind of boring running maps solo XD.
Your posts make it clear you have zero intent on actually having a discussion, and would rather try to "win" and "point out faults". I am at the point where I have to continuously repeat myself: I have provided my evidence, but you continue to refuse providing your own, and instead keep diverting the attention elsewhere.





The only positive thing I can leave this on is... At least you didn't say "could care less". That always drives me insane when people say that...
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MakaveliPT wrote:

Mr Multiboxer gets 6x the loot with no real effort, Mr Multiboxer will outbid you in any item you wanna buy because hes richer, the prices of stuff go up because he doesnt care to bid 10 exalteds on an andvarius and after sometime people will not accept less than that for one because it will become a trend, Mr Multiboxer probably does multibox to sell items/currency for irl money wich is bad.
The bolded part is a very funny example considering multiboxers are the ones who found most of the andvvarius rings


i think it's pretty clear you are an upset child who just wants to complain about something. Maybe pick a topic you have a better understanding in next time.


Multiboxer supply the economy with more unique items than you know. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW MAKAVELIPT this LOWERS the prices on uniques. But like i said before, multiboxer's DO NOT FIND items such as kaom's, lion's eye or shav's wraps

AND GUESS WHAT?

those are the items that cost over 30 exalted.
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THEHORNEDRAT wrote:
ShadyC's insight is thoroughly lacking. As if he is entitled to be the only authority on the multiboxing subject. And he presents all his poorly fleshed out QQs as fact.

So far he hasn't showed any evidence of the benefits of multiboxing. Only QQ here. QQ there. QQ everywhere.

As opposed to ExiledtoWraeclast, who has proved in his thread that low level solo farming to be viable. He also presented evidence. You also just mentioned it. The irony. An exalt in 20 hours? I can go for weeks without an exalt drop! I solo now too, thanks to Exiled, and after a week of multiboxing, I got zero exalts, zero gcps. I got 4-5 GCPs drop already using his solo method! :D

Maybe because he has rebuffed your argument and tore it to shreds, you have deliberately and purposely ignored his thread? ;)

Also, an unintended side effect of low level rushing is I find that I am getting proficient in building up a decent low level character, quickly, which will be of immense benefit should I decide to enter a race! Thanks Exiled.

You clearly have an agenda. Suffice to say you have been thoroughly discredited. You will not be taken seriously from now on. Please try again by making a new username on the site.

Edit: you most likely multifarm, but don't want others to. Well, let's wait for your evidence. Are you prepared implicate yourself? :)



Exiled doesn't even...

God, you just manufacture your own reality and present it like it's truth.

I hate to mention such things because of their nature, but... Exiled has PM'd me about his agreeing with my thread. But - as he himself put it - in the meantime, this farming method can help out! Because contrary to the reality you have formulated in your head, the two threads and points are ENTIRELY irrelevant to each other.



An Exalt in a 20 hour period is actually arguably less frequent than an Exalt in a week of playing. I'm talking 20 hard game hours here. For most people, that's about what they will play in a week's time - if not less. I assure you, I do not have the more beneficial end of the luck spectrum when farming.






It doesn't really matter what I say, though, you're just going to respond with something along the lines of, "blah blah blah, you still haven't proven anything, blah blah blah, you're a noob." Here, I'll give you a chance to prove something; prove my prediction wrong.
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ShadyC wrote:
Your posts make it clear you have zero intent on actually having a discussion, and would rather try to "win" and "point out faults". I am at the point where I have to continuously repeat myself: I have provided my evidence, but you continue to refuse providing your own, and instead keep diverting the attention elsewhere.





The only positive thing I can leave this on is... At least you didn't say "could care less". That always drives me insane when people say that...


Repeating yourself when I say what you have previously provided is insufficient is a bit hilarious isn't it? I'm not challenging your point, I'm challenging your method. Your presentation suggests severe bias. The sort that discredits arguments.

Try this as a parting note:

You do not address other potential variables.


I'm not trying to prove you wrong, I'm saying I am not convinced. How exactly do I provide evidence of my lingering skepticism? Multiboxing is effectively broken since you cannot vendor for chaos+ orbs. What exactly is it doing to the economy when it is no longer adding large numbers of chaos to the game world? Why are prices in chaos continuing to rise? How can that trend be sustained when multiboxing is no longer adding significant amounts of chaos to the game?


I pray, for the sake of the world, that you don't work in any positions involving funding, research, law, law enforcement, or hold any sort of power over human life and dignity.
I guess it is just a human phenomenon that's being amplified by the internet: cheating lying and scamming simply because in our society the result is being held higher than the process.

It's not like cheaters have fun for a long time. They do their thing enjoy their power high for a few days and move on to be replaced by others.
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SL4Y3R wrote:
Here's why I say prove it.

Because there are reasons why things are expensive that I can prove.

Many people enjoy immense profits from just trading alone. Chain was selling for an exalt during the first several weeks. Many gems were selling for a chaos+ each.

Many people enjoy farming. You know, summoners and duel totem builds who use tons of MF to just farm stuff.

Some people force chanced high end uniques for immense profits.

Botter boards. Where people trade a common currency for items between different games as well as cash.

RMT sites. Nuff said.

All of these reasons, and people that fall into one or multiple categories are greater than the amount of multiboxers.

Further, if you just play the game, you don't need the uber high end items. Hell, you don't even NEED to trade for items. I do trade currency, but that's about it. You see, I don't white knight multiboxing, I just know that it is
ot as big of a deal as many people claim it is.
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SL4Y3R wrote:
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SL4Y3R wrote:
Here's why I say prove it.

Because there are reasons why things are expensive that I can prove.

Many people enjoy immense profits from just trading alone. Chain was selling for an exalt during the first several weeks. Many gems were selling for a chaos+ each.

Many people enjoy farming. You know, summoners and duel totem builds who use tons of MF to just farm stuff.

Some people force chanced high end uniques for immense profits.

Botter boards. Where people trade a common currency for items between different games as well as cash.

RMT sites. Nuff said.

All of these reasons, and people that fall into one or multiple categories are greater than the amount of multiboxers.

Further, if you just play the game, you don't need the uber high end items. Hell, you don't even NEED to trade for items. I do trade currency, but that's about it. You see, I don't white knight multiboxing, I just know that it is
ot as big of a deal as many people claim it is.


Sl4yer, stfu. Read my original post EDIT:2 and there is your proof. You are clearly encouraging people to do this. I am playing you fool. I play in a private group too and i am still angry about this multiboxing shit. The gear comparison from me to MBers is far from inbetween. You too will be overrun. Your weak lil 6k build will be a mockery on forums when the majority of PoE have currency and gear far better than yours. They will laugh in your face if you dare post anything you own. Get your shit straight or can it.

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