Real Money Auction House RMAH for poe

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Tagek wrote:

You can't just 'stop' certain sites. That's simply not how it works XD.

They can't stop the site itself, but they can stop the in-game accounts of the people trading the items for forum gold. People won't trade on d2jsp as much if there's a high risk of losing all your stuff when you do it.

That's a bitch to monitor, not very doable, especially for an indie company.

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Tagek wrote:

That's a bitch to monitor, not very doable, especially for an indie company.

For those determined to encourage/think that this whole..."Low Effectivity = remove it" arguement is of any use, I shall clarify.

I am going to say this once, interpret it as you wish.
As many people, even in real life, fail to understand this concept or why we have it in nearly "all" society's/community's regarding property law/currency law.


The effectivity of a security/police is "NOT" the reason "Why" it is put in place and nor should it be removed because of it. Though the benefits differ depending on the quality of the security.

It is there to "ADD VALUE".

The more security something has, the higher its value.

Even if you do a bad job securing something it retains its higher value for those who have it and the overall cost it would incur other's to illegitimatly obtain said objective in a competitive enviroment.


take this away in any sence, and it brings dis-satisfaction.

Implementing both

1) rmah and
2) free respecs as indicated in this post:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/25439

will make poe an instant success in the gaming world.

This two ideas together with the current passive skill tree and the active gem socket system will propel poe to become the number 1 game of 2012 this year. It is the best way for this game to go fully mainstream and become playable by gamers of all types, be it hardcore gamers or casual gamers.

Ggg will become an instant success and people will not be calling poe a Diablo 3.5…... poe will be hailed as Diablo 4.0. poe will be heralded by gaming sites such as pcgamer, computer gaming world, etc, etc as producing the most innovative game of the year and also praised for taking bold and insightful steps towards the future of arpg world. The world is evolving all the time and we need to move forwards (and not backwards) and this is definitely taking the positive step in the right direction.

As for pple saying that implementing rmah system has security issues…… this is simple to overcome…. Poe already has a credit card system for buying supporter packs for getting points. This is half the battle won. Sellers simply pay a listing fee of 10 pts (or whatever ggg wants), and list the items in the rmah for the points they want to sell. Buyers simply have to purchase supporter packs to get the points in order to purchase the listed items from the seller.

After the item transaction, the seller can either keep the pts for their own use or just redeem the pts for credits back into credit card. Ggg can simply just set the redeem rate at 10 pts = $0.8 (or whatever ggg wants) to earn the commission profit.

Ggg, what r u waiting for? You should implement this two features for your greater future and your own good. Your bright future is just around the corner and it is waiting for you. Rmah and free respecs mode is the future and it is the way to go.

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stkmro wrote:

As for pple saying that implementing rmah system has security issues…… this is simple to overcome…. Poe already has a credit card system for buying supporter packs for getting points. This is half the battle won. Sellers simply pay a listing fee of 10 pts (or whatever ggg wants), and list the items in the rmah for the points they want to sell. Buyers simply have to purchase supporter packs to get the points in order to purchase the listed items from the seller.

All your doing is defacing the value of ingame goods with real life currency. mainstream, casual gaming is what is rapeing this entire generation of gaming for the sake of people who dont intend to invest time in the game.

Who really wants to be heralded for being mediocre?.
***Cough diablo 3***

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tachi203 wrote:

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stkmro wrote:

As for pple saying that implementing rmah system has security issues…… this is simple to overcome…. Poe already has a credit card system for buying supporter packs for getting points. This is half the battle won. Sellers simply pay a listing fee of 10 pts (or whatever ggg wants), and list the items in the rmah for the points they want to sell. Buyers simply have to purchase supporter packs to get the points in order to purchase the listed items from the seller.

All your doing is defacing the value of ingame goods with real life currency. mainstream, casual gaming is what is rapeing this entire generation of gaming for the sake of people who dont intend to invest time in the game.

Who really wants to be heralded for being mediocre?.
***Cough diablo 3***

the purpose of creating games is to let everybody have fun. if features can be implemented to make the game even more fun, why not???

it does the game every good to reach out to mainstream gamers... there's not point restricting the game just to hardcore fanboys who play non-stop 24/7 365 days of the year.... that's just building walls and constraining the limits of the game... this game has potential and more things need to be done to offer this to the masses...

there r plenty of pple who r behaving like extremists and fundamentalists who act as if implementing rmah and free respecs league will take away their very lives... the old ways of doing things r no longer relevant to the modern times... we need to move on with the times.

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tachi203 wrote:

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stkmro wrote:

As for pple saying that implementing rmah system has security issues…… this is simple to overcome…. Poe already has a credit card system for buying supporter packs for getting points. This is half the battle won. Sellers simply pay a listing fee of 10 pts (or whatever ggg wants), and list the items in the rmah for the points they want to sell. Buyers simply have to purchase supporter packs to get the points in order to purchase the listed items from the seller.

All your doing is defacing the value of ingame goods with real life currency. mainstream, casual gaming is what is rapeing this entire generation of gaming for the sake of people who dont intend to invest time in the game.

Who really wants to be heralded for being mediocre?.
***Cough diablo 3***

Haha, you have a very wrong sense of entitlement.

I'm opposed to RMAH. I believe the currency for trading should be the game points, which are non-refundable.

This method:
- allows people to trade items in open way
- prevents item farming since people don't get real money out of trading
- GGG still earns good profit from selling game points
- No BS like GGG getting % commission from the sellers, GGG wil get to keep all the profit from selling game points
- will also mesh well with website trading that devs are thinking of implementing
- less likely for the players to buy items for "investment" since no actuall monetary profit is involved, thus reducing inflation

Using game points as a currency will force players to use the trading for the actual purpose of obtaining hard-to-get items, while GGG gets 100% profit from selling points, without involving themselves in complicated trading systems like commissions and fees. In short, KISS.

What? You think GG should only make it tradeable by stuff you have to buy from them? What the fuck.

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Tagek wrote:

What? You think GG should only make it tradeable by stuff you have to buy from them? What the fuck.

Hahahaha.

I couldn't have said it better myself. :D