Soul Mantle "RIP" Classic build of 6 years

ggg shadow nerf soul mantle to the grave pay respects

-6 years

-RIP Soul mantle

They ruined one use of it that they didn't want in the game. Reduced Curse was too strong for it. So instead of nerfing everything else, by removing Reduced Curse Effect, the mitigated it by adding the -80%. They've admitted it was overkill and are working on a fix. Get over it.

"Inflicts a random Hex on you when your Totems die, with 80% increased Effect"
-RIP-

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Shagsbeard wrote:

They ruined one use of it that they didn't want in the game. Reduced Curse was too strong for it. So instead of nerfing everything else, by removing Reduced Curse Effect, the mitigated it by adding the -80%. They've admitted it was overkill and are working on a fix. Get over it.

this is not a /cry forum its to pay respects for 6 year classic build.. [Removed by Support]

“If it’s fun, they will nerf it.” - couldn’t be more true today. Rip SM.

I just disagree that this is a "build of 6 years". It was fine six years ago. It was the inclusion of the -Curse Effect on the rings that made it have to change.

https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ivdd5m/soul_mantle_nerf_not_listed_in_patch_notes/g5r8abm/?context=10

It's being fixed in a patch, Soul Mantle will curse with 80% more effect instead, so you can still get 100% reduced.

All that means is that they're also going after -CE too. They didn't like how -100% reduced eliminated the downside on Soul Mantle and tried to fix it. You can expect that the desire to change it isn't diminished by their fail. Look for a second round, but don't expect to go back to 100% reduced.

I expect they'll just put a -75% cap on it and ship it.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

All that means is that they're also going after -CE too. They didn't like how -100% reduced eliminated the downside on Soul Mantle and tried to fix it. You can expect that the desire to change it isn't diminished by their fail. Look for a second round, but don't expect to go back to 100% reduced.

I expect they'll just put a -75% cap on it and ship it.

I'm not sure I follow your logic. If they wanted to break -100% curse effect from Soul Mantle, they wouldn't be patching the item to fix it. Nothing in the balance manifesto suggested they were nerfing totems or reduced curse effect. And they certainly won't put a cap on reduced curse effect in anything but a major patch. GGG only perform major mid-league nerfs if something is spectacularly broken, like the whole Purposeful Harbinger debacle or the ES leech mod on the Zealotry Watcher's Eye being 6x the intended strength a while back. Soul Mantle Totems are nowhere near that strong.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

They ruined one use of it that they didn't want in the game. Reduced Curse was too strong for it. So instead of nerfing everything else, by removing Reduced Curse Effect, the mitigated it by adding the -80%. They've admitted it was overkill and are working on a fix. Get over it.

Though the reduced curse effect node on the tree is also nerfed for everyone with the way they adjusted curses in maps. Red map curse mods now say "players are cursed by XXX with 60% increased effect"

So now the 20% reduced curse effect on the tree is only reducing curse effect by 1 - 140/160 = 12.5%.

So from 20% to 12.5%. Big nerf.


I actually use that node on my non-totem build but for only 12.5% actual reduced curse effect, it's not worth it anymore. They need to apply the fix they are making to Soul Mantle to the map mod as well. Change it from "increased" to "more" so that 20% reduced curse effect is still 20% actual reduced curse effect.