Talisman Amulets are not competitive enough

As always....this is just an opinion:



Talismans always drop corrupted.

Corrupted Amulets can not be anointed.

Amulets not having an anointment are - for the most part - inferior.

Questions:

1.) Do you guys agree or disagree that Talismans are inferior in almost 99% of the cases and why so?

2.) Can Talismans get some love and what should it look like?

Love suggestions:
- drop them with random anointments.
- make them anointable for a higher cost.
- drop Talismans of a higher level instead of T1 and T2.
- improve the stats on the currently dropped Talismans.
- other solutions welcome

No Love:
Well, that's fine but then I kindly ask to please remove them from the any reward pool. It feels really bad to get dozens of Talismans that are not even worth picking up in wave 18 or 19 of a Simulacrum or from a T16 Blighted map for example.


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talismans were useless even before anointment came out because you cant even craft on them. i dont even pick them up to ID them
Some of the bases are pretty nice for their implicits, if you happen to be lucky enough to get good explicits to go along with them. It's damned rare, but it does happen occasionally. I pass on most of them, but a few I always check just in case. Longtooth, Fangjaw, Undying Flesh, and a couple others.

It'd be great if more could be done with them, but at the same time they're pretty straightforward and require no investment.
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Jorgin in Syndicate is basically the solution to talismans. You craft an amulet and anoint it and Jorgin makes it a talisman without affecting the mods or the anoint on it.

What Jorgin does is already the rework needed to salvage talismans as a concept. Otherwise they're better off obsoleted by concepts that are much better to begin with. Who knows, maybe there will be special amulet bases with implicits this league that are craftable.

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i dont even pick them up to ID them
Breach Rings and Talismans are actually not terrible things to pick up because they are already ID'd, and they only take up one square in your inventory so it's a very quick and easy way to sell some rares for alterations. WIth that said i think neversink hides Breach Rings so I end up not bothering to pick up those regardless.
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VolcanoElixir wrote:
Jorgin in Syndicate is basically the solution to talismans. You craft an amulet and anoint it and Jorgin makes it a talisman without affecting the mods or the anoint on it.

What Jorgin does is already the rework needed to salvage talismans as a concept. Otherwise they're better off obsoleted by concepts that are much better to begin with. Who knows, maybe there will be special amulet bases with implicits this league that are craftable.

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i dont even pick them up to ID them
Breach Rings and Talismans are actually not terrible things to pick up because they are already ID'd, and they only take up one square in your inventory so it's a very quick and easy way to sell some rares for alterations. WIth that said i think neversink hides Breach Rings so I end up not bothering to pick up those regardless.


Yeah, Jorgin is a good thing to do but it doesn't help with already dropped Talismans.

Also - as I have written in the last part - I feel quite unhappy to receive so many of them as a 'reward' in high level simulacrums and blights....

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Exxxiled665 wrote:
talismans were useless even before anointment came out because you cant even craft on them. i dont even pick them up to ID them


They were ok (never great) around the Talisman league (with upgrade paths) but then they were forgotten - unfortunately. And yeah...they are quite useless now (I know there are a few exceptions).
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Antigegner wrote:

- other solutions welcome


... Re-enable Stone Circles in order to sacrifice them and get Rigwald Exclusive again, like they were supposed to do?
Or sell a group of those items for a Map variant of the Rigwald fight? (upgrading Tiers and gating only T3 to get the map is also an idea)

I mean, if Rigwald uniques are league-boss-exclusive, thus cannot be found by the usual "drop a league-exclusive" recipe like Cameria. Apart from the cards that specifically yield Rigwald items, are there other ways to get those things? What was the point of revamping the Rigwald Axe&Sword in 3.12?

Otherwise, as VolcanoElixir suggested, they can help getting Alchs/Alt without the hassle of identifying a rare item
Last edited by Maxtrux#0762 on Sep 8, 2020, 11:21:23 AM
It's one of the many old league concepts that are in the game but not really in the game. They weren't even that great in the league itself. How often do you find a random amulet that is already super juicy. Now you gotta get that along with the right implicit.. it doesn't really work that way.

A league concept shouldn't exist if it requires another league to even make it work. If it doesn't function on its own then why bother. Especially since those implicits aren't really game breakingly OP. Maybe if you buffed those implicits by a lot and then allowed the ability to anoit mods but not craft.. maybe you could find value in them from a drop stand point.
Instead of being corrupted it could be that affixes cannot be modified or something. Then maybe at least catalysts and anoints could occur.
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biyte wrote:
Instead of being corrupted it could be that affixes cannot be modified or something. Then maybe at least catalysts and anoints could occur.


This, I think.
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biyte wrote:
Instead of being corrupted it could be that affixes cannot be modified or something. Then maybe at least catalysts and anoints could occur.


that's interesting.
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