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...for me its Shadowlands as it's coming at a perfect time. After years of no expansions from WOW as well as lack of MMORPGs Shadowlands is what GGG should be worried about not Cyberpunk 2077 or other single player games. I intend to play the crap out of Shadowlands through the winter, and the question is why shouldn't I? Path of Exile also most likely won't deliver anything significant until March because of Shadowlands. Path of Exile PvE (specifically its bossing and progression) is nowhere close to the quality of World of Warcraft. Path of Exile multiplayer (guild/group/trade) is way worse than World of Warcraft and then there's actual PvP in WOW. World of Warcraft is also more casual friendly. I'm honestly confused why GGG hasn't recognized this and adjusted accordingly to co-exist alongside Shadowlands or perhaps they're throwing in the towel and stepping on the side as the giant is coming through. PoE will still maintain some player base since its F2P, but I believe GGG has lost an opportunity with the best of its Twitch streamers by not doing enough, at least not for me to keep my interest. I'm still thankful Path of Exile is around. For me PoE has been that F2P filler game until the next AAA multiplayer game arrives. The Heist timing is nice where I get to play it for few weeks until Shadowlands and that's still not certain, since the patch is not out yet. World of Warcraft overall offers a far better social experience on top of a superior theme park experience compared to an aged and outdated PoE theme park. PoE has a long way to go to directly compete with a new WOW expansion with these mini "theme park" expansions/leagues, and at the end it won't be just WOW. I honestly don't see how Path of Exile 2 will remain relevant in late 2021 and beyond unless it drastically changes its core game design formula and its overall use/management of resources. The only good thing Path of Exile has going right now is that it's in a far better shape from a technical as well as graphical perspective. I still believe this game has hope if it focuses on what games like WOW are lacking. The 15+ years outdated match making ranking in World of Warcraft as example it's why that game has struggled outside of guild vs guild competition, and whenever the content (theme park) has lagged behind other F2P games like Path of Exile has managed to take advantage. Last edited by Kopogero#0635 on Sep 7, 2020, 7:26:10 PM Last bumped on Sep 9, 2020, 4:40:22 AM	Posted by Kopogero#0635 on Sep 7, 2020, 1:02:10 AM Quote this Post
Ok. Bye. We shall not miss you whoever you are.	Posted by karoollll2534#2874 on Sep 7, 2020, 1:17:16 AM Quote this Post
thx for the information i guess?	Posted by Example257#5736 on Sep 7, 2020, 1:29:22 AM Quote this Post
" Kopogero wrote: ...for me its Shadowlands as it's coming at a perfect time. After years of no expansions from WOW as well as lack of MMORPGs, Shadowlands is what GGG should be worried about not Cyberpunk 2077 or other single player games. I intend to play the crap out of Shadowlands through the winter, and the question is why shouldn't I? Path of Exile also most likely won't deliver anything significant until March because of Shadowlands. Path of Exile PvE (specifically its bossing and progression) is nowhere close to the quality of World of Warcraft. Path of Exile multiplayer (guild/group/trade) is way worse than World of Warcraft and then there's actual PvP in WOW. World of Warcraft is also more casual friendly. I'm honestly confused why GGG hasn't recognized this and adjusted accordingly to co-exist alongside Shadowlands or perhaps they're throwing in the towel and stepping on the side as the giant is coming through. PoE will still maintain some player base since its F2P, but I believe GGG has lost an opportunity with the best of its Twitch streamers by not doing enough, at least not for me to keep my interest. I'm still thankful Path of Exile is around. For me PoE has been that F2P filler game until the next AAA multiplayer game arrives. The Heist timing is nice where I get to play it for few weeks until Shadowlands (and that's still not certain), since the patch is not out yet. World of Warcraft overall offers a far better social experience on top of a superior theme park experience compared to an aged and outdated POE theme park. PoE has a long way to go to directly compete with a new WOW expansion with these mini "theme park" expansions/leagues, and at the end it won't be just WOW. I honestly don't see how Path of Exile 2 will remain relevant in late 2021 and beyond unless it drastically changes its core game design formula and its overall use/management of resources. The only good thing Path of Exile has going right now is that it's in a far better shape from a technical as well as graphical perspective. I still believe this game has hope if it focuses on what games like WOW are lacking. The 15+ years outdated match making ranking in World of Warcraft as example it's why that game has struggled outside of guild vs guild competition, and whenever the content (theme park) has lagged behind other F2P games like Path of Exile has managed to take advantage. IMO next POE league start is perfectly timed since Shadowlands starts roughly one month later. In that time the speedy boys have already their 36 challenges and can maybe switch to WoW to raid after one week and kill all raid-bosses in a months time. When they come back to POE in december (after playing all WoW content) a new fresh league is ready to go. Masterpiece of 3.16 lore "A mysterious figure appears out of nowhere, trying to escape from something you can't see. She hands you a rusty-looking device called the Blood Crucible and urges you to implant it into your body." Only usable with Ethanol Flasks	Posted by gandhar0#5532 on Sep 7, 2020, 2:33:04 AM Quote this Post
Also, You compared ARPG to MMO. I know all player come and say : "ahahah nice, u have try a bot u get ban, sooo nice" but i tell u its just for try, for see and for know. I have use this 10 minutes maximum and i have insta uninstall." - some not-too-bright dude, 2013; Joined 2012, † 2013. Last edited by Sarn88#3369 on Sep 7, 2020, 2:38:23 AM	Posted by Sarn88#3369 on Sep 7, 2020, 2:38:09 AM Quote this Post
" Kopogero wrote: ...for me its Shadowlands as it's coming at a perfect time. After years of no expansions from WOW as well as lack of MMORPGs, Shadowlands is what GGG should be worried about not Cyberpunk 2077 or GGG doesn't have to worry about that, because WoW players like to play WoW and other garbage tab targeted MMOs, and PoE players like to play Path of Exile and other aRPGs. Two totally different genres "Path of Exile's engine is currently modern, lean and fast." - Chris Wilson, September 19th, 2019 "It looks like we broke something with 3.10.0. We don't know what it is yet." - Bex, March 16th, 2020 Last edited by girng#7675 on Sep 7, 2020, 2:53:35 AM	Posted by girng#7675 on Sep 7, 2020, 2:52:41 AM Quote this Post
" Kopogero wrote: Shadowlands is what GGG should be worried about not Cyberpunk 2077 lmao nice joke there:') 3.26 when? Don't abandon us. don't turn your backs on the ones loving poe.	Posted by satanttin#4601 on Sep 7, 2020, 2:52:46 AM Quote this Post
that's epic bro thanks for sharing	Posted by CAPSLOCK_ON#7907 on Sep 7, 2020, 3:30:10 AM On Probation Quote this Post
" Kopogero wrote: WoW-fanboisim	Posted by C4Guy#0918 on Sep 7, 2020, 3:36:23 AM Quote this Post
" Kopogero wrote: ...for me its Shadowlands as it's coming at a perfect time. After years of no expansions from WOW as well as lack of MMORPGs, Shadowlands is what GGG should be worried about not Cyberpunk 2077 or other single player games. I intend to play the crap out of Shadowlands through the winter, and the question is why shouldn't I? I'm a huge fan of the Shadowrun series too, those are some epic cyberpunk games that can help fill in the void while waiting for Cyberpunk 2077 to be released /thread derailed	Posted by Asmosis#7365 on Sep 7, 2020, 3:38:39 AM Quote this Post