Can harvest uniques be chanced?

I think it is a valid question, as the wiki claims that, e.g. Abhorrent Interrogation, can be obtained from gloves-related div. cards.



But there were already multiple instances where the wiki was wrong, so could anyone confirm whether they can be chanced or not?

EDIT: just did an expensive experiment: trash to treasure didn't work on Ambush Mitts, therefore they cannot be chanced.

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Ydoum wrote:

I think it is a valid question, as the wiki claims that, e.g. Abhorrent Interrogation, can be obtained from gloves-related div. cards.

Spoiler

This item is restricted to areas with the league flag for Harvest active. There are additional ways to acquire league-restricted items, see League-specific items for more details.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Abhorrent_Interrogation

But there were already multiple instances where the wiki was wrong, so could anyone confirm whether they can be chanced or not?

EDIT: just did an expensive experiment: trash to treasure didn't work on Ambush Mitts, therefore they cannot be chanced.

Thanks for the experiment.
In which area did you try to chance the gloves ?

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xhul wrote:

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Ydoum wrote:

I think it is a valid question, as the wiki claims that, e.g. Abhorrent Interrogation, can be obtained from gloves-related div. cards.

Spoiler

This item is restricted to areas with the league flag for Harvest active. There are additional ways to acquire league-restricted items, see League-specific items for more details.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Abhorrent_Interrogation

But there were already multiple instances where the wiki was wrong, so could anyone confirm whether they can be chanced or not?

EDIT: just did an expensive experiment: trash to treasure didn't work on Ambush Mitts, therefore they cannot be chanced.

Thanks for the experiment.
In which area did you try to chance the gloves ?

HO, grove, a map with no additional league modifiers (meaning a standard Harvest league modifier was applied).

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Ydoum wrote:

HO, grove, a map with no additional league modifiers (meaning a standard Harvest league modifier was applied).

Interesting.
I see 2 main possibilities to explain why it didn't work then :
A) The gloves aren't just harvest-specific as told in poedb & the wiki, they have a different context flag.
B) GGG somehow screwed up in implementing the ability to chance those gloves, or maybe even all harvest uniques.

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xhul wrote:

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Ydoum wrote:

HO, grove, a map with no additional league modifiers (meaning a standard Harvest league modifier was applied).

Interesting.
I see 2 main possibilities to explain why it didn't work then :
A) The gloves aren't just harvest-specific as told in poedb & the wiki, they have a different context flag.
B) GGG somehow screwed up in implementing the ability to chance those gloves, or maybe even all harvest uniques.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the wiki that has wrong info, but at the same time... GGG has been known for messing up in the recent leagues.

Sadly this is one of those things that we will never know answer to. If I dare to post this on reddit - asking if this was intended and whatnot - I'll get nothing but toxicity and downvotes -> ignored by Bexx.

If I post this on the official forums... well, it'll disappear in a matter of hours from the sight.

I believe actually it is harvest-Exclusive just like a Breach item is Brech-Exclusive. You can drop a Breach item only from a Brech enemy or a Breachlord, but you could not chance them, not even in Breach league, because they were not in the generic drop table.

Similiarly, I believe all of those new Harvest items can only be dropped from Harvest monsters, not just chanced.

If that's the case, I guess Wiki should find a way to tell that not all league-exclusive are equal

Actually the card can get non boss league specific unique.

While the info on league specific or not in wiki is purely by guessing

I assume the prophecy got fulfilled and disappeared?

Ambush Mitts have two uniques, both are league specific. I wonder if it's something weird like it triggers a unique Slavedriver, but it's the wrong league (Incursion) so it just fizzles.

It's also possible that prophecy can't do league uniques at all.

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harddaysnight wrote:

I assume the prophecy got fulfilled and disappeared?

Ambush Mitts have two uniques, both are league specific. I wonder if it's something weird like it triggers a unique Slavedriver, but it's the wrong league (Incursion) so it just fizzles.

It's also possible that prophecy can't do league uniques at all.

The prophecy can chance non-boss league specific unique, if you are in the right Zana modded map

But Incursion unique are specific to a chest inside the Incursion Temple

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harddaysnight wrote:

I assume the prophecy got fulfilled and disappeared?

Ambush Mitts have two uniques, both are league specific. I wonder if it's something weird like it triggers a unique Slavedriver, but it's the wrong league (Incursion) so it just fizzles.

It's also possible that prophecy can't do league uniques at all.

Prophecy wasn't triggered at all.

I'm just annoyed that we cannot apply influence to specific unique items. There's a lot of fun combinations that simply can't exist because of it. Had a fun build idea based around the previously mentioned gloves and Eternity Shroud. They'd synergize well together, but GGG says NOPE.