No XP penalty when dying to bosses
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Let's try taking baby steps first. I think a large part of why players hate the XP penalty has to do with bullshit unfair deaths.
1shots 1shots offscreen 1shots from within a clusterfuck of effects Enemies killing you after they're dead A lot of players feel like they're being cheated out of 10% XP because something killed them before they could react or even see the thing that was going to kill them. We should try addressing this first and see how much it has an impact on XP loss. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley |
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" as somebody who used the cheesy option to do maps without delirium, bosses or hard mods to eventually reach lv95 i should be against this idea, but i think it's worth considering the consequences. if you give players the impression their progress stalled with noy way out, they either reroll or quit. i dunno how many fuckthisshitidostandardnextleague moments i had in delirium but there were many cause i usually play one char per league. that's my personal issue, what would change with the game? what price would maps have which have rippy bosses? age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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As a player who immensely prefers to play softcore myself, I'm still going to suggest that everyone should give hardcore a try at least once up to mapping. Players need a bit of re-calibration as far as what "severe punishment" for dying is if the possibility of losing a fraction of a level worth of XP feels severe. It should feel like you have something on the line or you lose all of the excitement of a challenging encounter.
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" there was a small window of time where this was worth it, it's been between the time they introduced lockstep and the speed meta took over. this window is closed, i'm not keen to lose my time investment to a single random offscreen projectile. age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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" 10% x 6 deaths... shouldn't be that hard. And its very likely in regards to specific bosses, you know, the ones that can actually kill well built/well-geared folk for mistakes. Yep, totally over league play.
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Game is dead, people leave after a few weeks from the start of every league, they hope something new but soon realise same rubbish so they leave. Game has past its used by date they have had 7 years and a good run and now they are coming up with mental ideas like delirium and have lost the plot, they don't listen to players just the investors and all about making money and Pay to win content. So many threads about xp loss penalties and they are in denial saying no one complaints about it just look at their interviews you u can tell something is not right up there. Time to move on and play a new game with no trolls, toxic community or idiots. Maybe look at Last Epoche on steam?
Last edited by Nephilim999#7264 on May 19, 2020, 3:49:29 AM
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" A lot of us leave after we've accomplished our league goals, which very well may be a few weeks or so. Once I've beaten all of the content with my character, gotten to the number of challenges I plan to complete, potentially reached some sort of financial goal like "own a headhunter", and run through the top end of the league specific content for a few days at the end, then I go play other games for a while. I think that's fine, I don't need hundreds or thousands of hours worth of new content and grinds every single league. For a lot of us, checking out after a few weeks of the new league has nothing to do with being dissatisfied with Path of Exile or disappointment with the league mechanic, we just got what we wanted out of it and like playing other games too. |
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According to its Steam Charts, the game seems to be trending upwards compared to previous seasons. There is no reason to imagine its demise coming anytime soon.
What if they made an extra league version with no penalty? Sure, it would reduce the number of players in the Softcore leagues, but it surely would increase the number of players total, as the casual players that are put off by the penalty could play without it (and they could even play with it when they feel up to the extra challenge), and the more hardcore players would play in the league with the penalty or hardcore. |
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" This. Claiming that the experience penalty is why the active players drop after the first few weeks is hilariously ignorant. Delirium is one of my all-time favorite leagues, and I got a dozen builds up to 90+, but that doesn't mean I don't want to also spend some free time playing Factorio or Conan Exiles. I'll be back when the new league launches, just like everyone else. |
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