SSF Challange rewards vs non SSF. (Please listen to my cries).

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
LMAO

God I love these end-of-league threads, how oblivious can you even get?

OP: Before you embarass yourself any further, you might want to check the character tabs of the people you're calling out. And while you're at it, take a peek at the Achievements tab as well, because when you're talking about someone like Fruz who is fairly well known as a veteran HC SSF player, and you've never:

-Killed any of the breachlords
-Cleared all yellow maps
-Beaten the Core map EVEN ONCE
-6-linked an item

It really doesn't reflect well on your credibility.


Yep. I only have 1 account. No other accounts. I told I played it long and stuff but this account doesn't look like it. Hmmmmmm lets think. Ohh right. He has probably other accounts. Nobody could have guessed it, damn.

I guess you never heard of people having multiple accounts. (PS: most gamers/players/people have multiple accounts). That's called smurfing in most games. I'm happy to welcome you to gaming community and teach you new gamer/gaming words. xD
You are quite a pretentious person.
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BloodPuddles420 wrote:
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
LMAO

God I love these end-of-league threads, how oblivious can you even get?

OP: Before you embarass yourself any further, you might want to check the character tabs of the people you're calling out. And while you're at it, take a peek at the Achievements tab as well, because when you're talking about someone like Fruz who is fairly well known as a veteran HC SSF player, and you've never:

-Killed any of the breachlords
-Cleared all yellow maps
-Beaten the Core map EVEN ONCE
-6-linked an item

It really doesn't reflect well on your credibility.


There's a good chance he hasn't, but you shouldn't go by those. I'm apparently still stuck on Brutus.


I like this BloodPuddles420 dude. (^_^) He has open mind, I respect that. Not many people are like that sadly.
Since SSF was introduced as a request fullfilment (GGG gave us this option as a sign of good will) there are those threads about "how SSF should be "special kid" that need an "extra care" because "its SSF".

It is as it is and it is GOOD. Dont try to influence it. You wont. You just waste Your time and attention. Youe are not the first one and probably wont be last one but just stop.

Only fool is angry at Sun that it rises on the east. Dont be a fool.
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DnBChicken wrote:
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Baharoth15 wrote:
If SSF takes too long/is too hard for you then play tradeleague. The game is designed around softcore tradeleagues, not around HC and/or SSF. Those two modes are optional for people who WANT IT TO BE HARDER. Making them easier would literally remove their purpose.


Please read what I said. If you still didn't get it then read again. It feels like you can't read well or for you it's really hard to see other peoples perspective.

(Trying to explain again for simple people).
I only said make it little bit easyer. Or change something. To make it that the grind is worth. Deserving. Right now you play and grind alot to get the same item what others get by doing ALOT less.
I'm like whut. It's like people do something what they like but when they do that they have to work harder to get what others get by doing ALOT less. (I guess it's too complicated for you, you didn't understand the thing what I said earlyer). : /
I hope you understand now someway. Or you are really stubborn.

Lets say that way, if you wanna get items in SSF you have to grind and trade league has to grind less (see there wasn't alot). Or change the color little bit. Or something. Little bit different challanges but still really hard and grinding.
Just make it little, I said "little". Little, little? Little bit easyer.
Or change the color. Little bit. Change the name atleast? Like "SSF epic wings" (that's a name). Or make less effects on it or more little bit. I said little and when I say little I mean little little. (Little as hard too see).

If you don't understand that then. You are hopless. And I'm sorry, truly sorry. (Wasted too much time on you. I think you don't deserve it). :(

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Fruz is just telling you facts here, this has nothing to do with him or tradeleague players but only with the fact that GGG decided to only balance around trade softcore. They (GGG) decided they don't want to balance SSF/Hardcore separately in any way. You can dislike that, you can make complaint topics like this about it, but you shouldn't expect this to change. I mean just look the balance mess we have in trade leages, they can't even manage to balance that properly, how are they ever supposed to balance 2 separate modes individually on top of that?

As someone who hates trading and hardly ever does it the only advice I can give, if you want to play SSF, forget about Challenges and, better even, about leagues all together. Challenge hunting and SSF will never go hand in hand.


It's easy to balance. Remove tradeing. Without tradeing it's so much easyer to balance. Don't believe me? Look other games. But then again. People in trade league start crying. + it's not that hard to change challanges. It takes max 1-3 days of working by one dude and asking questions from others to make that happen. The only problem is players in trade league. Who start to protest and start to make tears. (How do I know it's ez and doesn't take long?) You just change some numbers when the challanges are ready. 1-3 days. :D


So I am getting sick of your attitude and start thinking your just trolling anyway so I will just give it one more try to get it into your head. If you don't, well, w/e.

"GGG does not want to remove trading and/or balance SSF/Hardcore".

Try to understand that sentence if you can. They just don't want to. Sure they could, but they don't want. Believe it or not but the millions of trade league players are of more concern to them then you are. Not to mention that 99% of the SSF/Hardcore players will disagree with you as well.

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de99ial wrote:
Since SSF was introduced as a request fullfilment (GGG gave us this option as a sign of good will) there are those threads about "how SSF should be "special kid" that need an "extra care" because "its SSF".

It is as it is and it is GOOD. Dont try to influence it. You wont. You just waste Your time and attention. Youe are not the first one and probably wont be last one but just stop.

Only fool is angry at Sun that it rises on the east. Dont be a fool.


I know. I know that most builds don't even work in SSF. I know stuff trust me. I know that they added SSF because players wanted. But Trying to change something what has been there for long time and that can be better. You don't like when things are better and improved?
So you are saying. By your logic. If we compare this to the real world to show how this way of thinking don't work or isn't good.

1st. People wanted freedom in countries and we got it. And later we wanted other things. This mean we can't have other things because we got freedom? You can't improve even more where we are right now?
Of course we can always improve and get things better. (Time to improve and make the SSF little better)?

2nd. Lets try to make things better and better. If they aren't good we can always go back. Easy. People first don't like it because people are scared of change.

Sorry for wanting this game to evolve and be better than any game there is for every kind of people. And if this is really bad idea. It's only 1 league. They have done faaaar worse things than that what I'm asking. And I'm not asking much here. (This change can come when PoE 2 comes. I just want something to change in SSF someday close to PoE 2). And making this forum post is like voting or something. I know it doesn't change much, but by making developers think about it is already win for me. I know they already have thought but then they know there is 1 more player or even more players who want it.

(I'm thinking in a bigger picture I guess)?

And only a real fool is the one who wanted to go in space and live in other planet where sun that rises on the east. Thanks to that fool we made it to space. Sadly he never got to live on that planet. But he made us better.
Is OP a lazy troll, or the poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect?

You be the judge.
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DnBChicken wrote:

Yep. I just want something to change. I'm tired of seeing trade league players think they are abouve all. And all the world goes around them.


Have you even read your own posts?

99% of the SSF posts on here are literally "make SSF easier/give us special treatment because I want that 'snowflake SSF tag' but don't want to actually make the effort"

SSF is fine.

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By your logic, they should just give everyone 36/36 when they make a new trade league character, save wasting their time, right?
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So I am getting sick of your attitude and start thinking your just trolling anyway so I will just give it one more try to get it into your head. If you don't, well, w/e.

"GGG does not want to remove trading and/or balance SSF/Hardcore".

Try to understand that sentence if you can. They just don't want to. Sure they could, but they don't want. Believe it or not but the millions of trade league players are of more concern to them then you are. Not to mention that 99% of the SSF/Hardcore players will disagree with you as well.


Yep you can't read. You are illiterate person. Congratulations! Did I say remove tradeing? No. I said they can remove tradeing and it would fix the balance. And if you read what I said there.
Lets read together. I said it takes only 1-3days to do that. By one person. And he probably ask questions from other people. This means he takes little bit of other peoples time too. It doesn't effect much the companies balance by making the challanges little bit easyer or change colors. Change colors takes longer little bit but not much.
So my argument to him was that "the thing what I want takes only 1-3 days". And what he said earlyer that "it's even hard to do balances and that they don't have time to do balanced to SSF". But he kind of missed the point by little and probably was thinking I want bigger balances. I just want little numbers to change. Lol. He made a valid argument. Didn't disagree. But people think I want bigger changes. Just chaning numbers aren't much of a balancing. (PS: they do that alot in other games and it works).

(Why I said you can balance things really well by removing tradeing? Because I quickly debunked his argument easy. And adding + mark as it was a bonus. I know they don't remove it. I don't mind. Let there be tradeing. Sure.)

Please read. What are you even doing in forums when you can't read? And yep. Please don't reply anymore. xD Learn reading first.
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Chalace2 wrote:
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DnBChicken wrote:

Yep. I just want something to change. I'm tired of seeing trade league players think they are abouve all. And all the world goes around them.


Have you even read your own posts?

99% of the SSF posts on here are literally "make SSF easier/give us special treatment because I want that 'snowflake SSF tag' but don't want to actually make the effort"

SSF is fine.

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By your logic, they should just give everyone 36/36 when they make a new trade league character, save wasting their time, right?


You can read right? I said "I just want something to change" as I'm tired of seeing changes only in non SSF. Make a small one in SSF once a year. Like turn down the numbers little bit. Not like 36/36. Can't you read? Is reading that hard that people can't read and only few can? I even said. on my post. Like challange kill 200 elders. Make it 100 or 150 I said. This isn't a big change. If you read what I said to others. I told them and explained even more. Make it easyer 1%. Make it almost like placebo effect. Turn down little bit. 10 unique maps to 9 or 8. THAT'S NOT MUCH. Endgame grind. Like make to delve 600 depth in normal. In SSF 550? 575? Little bit. And by doing things in SSF takes longer time. And if you change to non SSF. You have to do the normal challanges. You can't go non SSF to SSF.

Please learn to read.
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DnBChicken wrote:
i dont get the problemYep. I just want something to change. I'm tired of seeing trade league players think they are abouve all. And all the world goes around them. Like this guy @Fruz

You realize I play SSF, right ?


LULZ!


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DnBChicken wrote:
I know. I know that most builds don't even work in SSF. I know stuff trust me

SteelMage hit 40/40 in SSF HC, he's got all the gear he wants to pretty much do anything he wants there.


You know stuff ... right, alright alright.

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

OP: Before you embarass yourself any further, you might want to check the character tabs of the people you're calling out. And while you're at it, take a peek at the Achievements tab as well, because when you're talking about someone like Fruz who is fairly well known as a veteran HC SSF player

Spoiler
Well, NVidia Gefore experience decided that I should play SC SSF tonight :((((
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Dec 10, 2019, 11:31:45 AM

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