We all know PoE "requires" an SSD

But does anyone have any experience using an M.2 playing PoE? Just ordered myself a 1TB M.2 disk, and wondering if I can expect some improvements in loading times etc?
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Last bumped on Dec 4, 2019, 11:27:07 AM
First I've heard of it... let us know how it turns out.
Going from sata to m.2 is very little difference because the random read (4k) performance difference between these types of drives is relatively small in comparison to the huge difference in sequential speeds. Sequential speeds are not important for PoE load times, only random speed. The interface is not the bottleneck for random reads or writes, but despite that a good m.2 might load marginally faster, only because they typically have a more premium controller (the "CPU" of the SSD) as would be required of a drive with higher peak speeds. It's not a very big difference though, while you may be getting speeds as much as 400% higher than your sata ssd for sequential i/o operations, 4k random speed will be maybe 20% to 60% higher tops. I would not expect this to translate into 20%/60% faster loads, either, it's probably barely going to be noticeable.

If you are coming from hdd it is an entirely different story.

the long and short of it is no, it is not worth going from a sata ssd to an m.2 for poe.
Last edited by Gutterflower#5744 on Dec 1, 2019, 9:14:34 AM
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Riince wrote:
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the long and short of it is no, it is not worth going from a sata ssd to an m.2 for poe.


Not sure on PoE, but here's a yt video I found comparing HDD vs SSD vs M.2 MVME loading times. And from a cursory look at the video Riince is quite on point.

M.2 NVME vs SSD vs HDD Loading Windows and Games

Hope it helps.
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Last edited by element274#1105 on Dec 1, 2019, 9:30:45 AM
I use this myself.



I felt the difference instantly.
I barely have a loading screen. If you are considering it, i highly recomend it.

Keep in mind that it is only NVME that is faster than a SSD. Other M2 cards are as fast as a SSD, and you need a motherboard that can make use of the NVME technology.

As an excample comparing a regular samsung SSD with a samsung NVME m2

Samsung SSD 850 EVO

Sequential Read: Max. 540 MB/s
Sequential Write: Max. 520 MB/s

Samsung NVME m2 970 pro

Sequential Read: Max. 3400 MB/s
Sequential Write: Max. 2700 MB/s
Last edited by Anubis2108#3783 on Dec 1, 2019, 9:27:45 AM
I buyed this 1-2 months ago together with a ryzen 5 3600 because my performance got quite worse with an i7 2700k:



Corsair Force MP510 960 GB with 3,480 MB/s.

I noticed much better performance in poe, but this is more because of the new CPU and not because of the better SSD compared to my other sdd(Samsung 840 Pro).
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Anubis2108 wrote:
I use this myself.



I felt the difference instantly.
I barely have a loading screen. If you are considering it, i highly recomend it.

Keep in mind that it is only NVME that is faster than a SSD. Other M2 cards are as fast as a SSD, and you need a motherboard that can make use of the NVME technology.

As an excample comparing a regular samsung SSD with a samsung NVME m2

Samsung SSD 850 EVO

Sequential Read: Max. 540 MB/s
Sequential Write: Max. 520 MB/s

Samsung NVME m2 970 pro

Sequential Read: Max. 3400 MB/s
Sequential Write: Max. 2700 MB/s


ok but the sequential speed doesn't really matter.

I would venture to guess that the fact you probably went from an old crusty OS installation to a brand new one was a larger contributing factor to your poe load times...
Last edited by Gutterflower#5744 on Dec 1, 2019, 9:38:49 AM
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Riince wrote:
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Anubis2108 wrote:
I use this myself.



I felt the difference instantly.
I barely have a loading screen. If you are considering it, i highly recomend it.

Keep in mind that it is only NVME that is faster than a SSD. Other M2 cards are as fast as a SSD, and you need a motherboard that can make use of the NVME technology.

As an excample comparing a regular samsung SSD with a samsung NVME m2

Samsung SSD 850 EVO

Sequential Read: Max. 540 MB/s
Sequential Write: Max. 520 MB/s

Samsung NVME m2 970 pro

Sequential Read: Max. 3400 MB/s
Sequential Write: Max. 2700 MB/s


ok but the sequential speed doesn't really matter.

I would venture to guess that the fact you probably went from an old crusty OS installation to a brand new one was a larger contributing factor to your poe load times...


No, and you are wrong.
I could compare loading times since i got HDD, SSD, m2, and nvme m2.

I used a EVO before the NVME m2.
Last edited by Anubis2108#3783 on Dec 1, 2019, 9:42:25 AM
Okay what was the actual difference?
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Riince wrote:
Okay what was the actual difference?


Been a year or 2 now since i changed, cant really remember.

But, like i said in the previous post. I barely see the loading screen now. Which i did before.

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