Twitch Drops

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dyneol wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

Why do you think they offered MTX freebies to Twitch viewers, if not to increase their total views?

A simple gesture. A thank you. You guys blow it up ad absurdum .. it's just incredible. Like I said I hope they wont do it ever again since obviously modern gaming communities cannot handle this at all. I did not even know about those drops until I seen all these fetuses here raging.

I'm absolutely blown away by this community ... I really enjoyed exilecon and I was convinced nothing but positivity can come out of this ...

You do that by offering a box for logging in during the event. Not by making people watch for hours on end with low percentage reward rate. They could've very well handed out a celebratory box (as usual) for logging into the game during exilecon rather than go with a knowingly buggy Twitch Drops system which Twitch has proven to be unable to run smoothly. Instead of resulting in the prevention of eligibility from bugs, and some from sheer bad luck (and some lucky people who got upwards of ten) they could've just given one to everyone. (Maybe one per day, both days)

But, the point of the promotion (hence why it's called a promotion) was to give a larger viewership foundation to maximize PoE2's announcement exposure. My only issue is that they decided to go with a buggy Twitch Drops promotion rather than one which they'd have complete control over. From a PR/Marketing standpoint there always should've been a reward floor which only depends from the game itself rather than a third party. If you absolutely want to utilize Twitch Drops, at least acknowledge those who got shot up by a common technical issue.

"It's been brought to our attention that many of our viewers have run into technical issues which are out of our control, we hear you and we'll be looking into a solution after the event is over".

Simple, really. The way they handled it is actually pretty interestingly bad considering they did work with DE_Rebecca who has handled that type of issue before.

I don't think it's an unreasonable alternative - everyone gets something, third party bugs are completely ruled out of the realm of possibilities, hype is still there and you don't get any kind of high disparity inequality between players. You also probably end up giving away less rewards in total.

GGG exploited people,
The drops were not random,
They tampered with it,
They lied,
They covered up,
They ignored,

All they do is blame other comapnies/people for their problems.
SCREW GGG...

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EstocSlayer wrote:

GGG exploited people,
The drops were not random,
They tampered with it,
They lied,
They covered up,
They ignored,

All they do is blame other comapnies/people for their problems.
SCREW GGG...

The drops were random, the rest of the stuff you mentioned is just from community members making up false information to stir up drama. You'd be doing yourself a favor to forget about it and get over it.

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darkmark009 wrote:

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EstocSlayer wrote:

GGG exploited people,
The drops were not random,
They tampered with it,
They lied,
They covered up,
They ignored,

All they do is blame other comapnies/people for their problems.
SCREW GGG...

The drops were random, the rest of the stuff you mentioned is just from community members making up false information to stir up drama. You'd be doing yourself a favor to forget about it and get over it.

Where is your proof?
How do we know GGG didn't mess up an see those accounts as not eligible.
As on the first day GGG indicated only 12k accounts appeared eligible which indicated a major problem from the start

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EstocSlayer wrote:

Where is your proof?
How do we know GGG didn't mess up an see those accounts as not eligible.
As on the first day GGG indicated only 12k accounts appeared eligible which indicated a major problem from the start

Another one toxic player? Chris admitted in post they screwed up with Twitch drops, and they made steps to resolve this. And in fact, they did. Huge amount of people, myself included, has gotten their drops. With little delay, true, but they mostly fixed the problem. You didn't, you were unlucky, there was still about 25% chance you won't any get drop, even with watching all streams. Stop whining and get over it.

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EstocSlayer wrote:

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darkmark009 wrote:

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EstocSlayer wrote:

GGG exploited people,
The drops were not random,
They tampered with it,
They lied,
They covered up,
They ignored,

All they do is blame other comapnies/people for their problems.
SCREW GGG...

The drops were random, the rest of the stuff you mentioned is just from community members making up false information to stir up drama. You'd be doing yourself a favor to forget about it and get over it.

Where is your proof?
How do we know GGG didn't mess up an see those accounts as not eligible.
As on the first day GGG indicated only 12k accounts appeared eligible which indicated a major problem from the start

This is clearly your first twitch drop rodeo so I'm going to explain it to you.

Twitch drops are notorious for having issues when it comes to over 100-200 thousand people watching the stream at once, hence the massive delay and people possibly not getting counted at all. This does not mean that GGG was trying to "scam" you out of your precious and limited free time.

This sort of thing happens every time when Warframe does twitch drops as well, such as during Tennocon. The drop system isn't perfect and is prone to technical issues especially under heavy loads. Other than linking the twitch drop system to the game, GGG can't really do much about it after the fact.

During tennocon earlier this year, plenty of people were complaining that they got "scammed" because they didn't get their free Nekros prime after an hour of watching. Guess what showed up in their inbox several days later? That's because it was a guaranteed reward for watching an hour. There are no guarantees here, only averages.

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EstocSlayer wrote:

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darkmark009 wrote:

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EstocSlayer wrote:

GGG exploited people,
The drops were not random,
They tampered with it,
They lied,
They covered up,
They ignored,

All they do is blame other comapnies/people for their problems.
SCREW GGG...

The drops were random, the rest of the stuff you mentioned is just from community members making up false information to stir up drama. You'd be doing yourself a favor to forget about it and get over it.

Where is your proof?

Where's yours?

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EstocSlayer wrote:

How do we know GGG didn't mess up an see those accounts as not eligible.
As on the first day GGG indicated only 12k accounts appeared eligible which indicated a major problem from the start

We don't know that GGG didn't bork something up, all we have to go on is what they have said & I think if you go full on tin-foil that says more about you than the nefarious conspiracy to deny some random gamers some MTX.

I got 0 drop. I'm unlucky and it's fine.

But when I see people saying they got 4-5+ drops or they got dupes, that really infuriates me.

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EstocSlayer wrote:

GGG exploited people,
The drops were not random,
They tampered with it,
They lied,
They covered up,
They ignored,

All they do is blame other comapnies/people for their problems.
SCREW GGG...

With all of the work that went into ExileCon, with how busy GGG employees were to pull off their first event of this kind, to think that they would have spent extra effort doing this... And for what reason? Well, I hope you have a lot of tin foil for your hat.

edited to add:
If anything, this was a big distraction for GGG, and I bet they'll never do it again. Not worth the trouble.

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UsamiKuniko wrote:

Huge amount of people, myself included, has gotten their drops. With little delay, true, but they mostly fixed the problem.

Nothing more then confirmation bias, but Im glad you got rewarded for your time, as well as other here that seem so vocal at it being just being rng even after all the knovn issues.

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UsamiKuniko wrote:

You didn't, you were unlucky, there was still about 25% chance you won't any get drop, even with watching all streams.

Actually, the odds if you watched both days was under 2% if I'm not mistaken to get nothing, and it was known they were having a bunch of tech issues with it. Why do you think they double everything the following day for drops. Unfortunately double nothing is still nothing for bugged accounts.

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UsamiKuniko wrote:

Stop whining and get over it.

People are voicing their concerns for GGG wasting their time by making them viewbots for twitch with what appears to be rigged. Im not sure why whiteknights keep defending their mishandling of this, you guys on the payroll of something? At the very least they should have a statement at what really happened.