[3.26] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Witch For Everyone

Rings and Boots enchant are classic culprits for cold damage. More than once i had to run lab again because my boots got cold damage.

Why do you use Presence of Chayula as low life? Don't you have Vile Bastion for the stun immunity or am I misunderstanding how Vile Bastion works? is it just for the Max Life to ES? it seems that Vile Bastion is still chosen in your Final LL Tree, so maybe that's just the oversight!

Thanks!

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Gardosuro wrote:

Why do you use Presence of Chayula as low life? Don't you have Vile Bastion for the stun immunity or am I misunderstanding how Vile Bastion works? is it just for the Max Life to ES? it seems that Vile Bastion is still chosen in your Final LL Tree, so maybe that's just the oversight!

Thanks!

I believe we drop Vile Bastion when you go LL with the PoC neck. I think we respec and grab malediction... pretty sure I read this in the guide, can't recall exactly.



So going LL is the end goal right? Looking to buy my shavs and PoC before I re-spec to the LL tree and fix up my other gear slots after too.

Thanks for the updated guide.

Have played it a few times previously and started vortex again this league.

I went strait from the leveling build to low life (accumulated the gear for LL and skipped CI) and its buttery smooth now.

I made a change in that i removed whispering doom and went malediction instead of vile bastion ascendancy as already had cannot be stunned mod with chayula.

The reason you take Vile Bastion even on low life isn't the stun immunity, its the sustain and tankiness it provides. The base regen plus the amount on kill is what keeps you topped off, without it you have no way to quickly regen back up if you miss a block on a big hit.

PoC is a good neck just for the extra base ES which we don't really have a lot of. It's also relatively cheap and readily available even 2 days into league. You could also go with a solid rare with even more + gem levels, or something like The Halcyon to get the 60% damage buff or the upgraded version of the cold pen and blind.

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goatcheese61 wrote:

The reason you take Vile Bastion even on low life isn't the stun immunity, its the sustain and tankiness it provides. The base regen plus the amount on kill is what keeps you topped off, without it you have no way to quickly regen back up if you miss a block on a big hit.

For sustain I'm using a small cluster which gives ES on kill + Cinderswallow flask.

Due to this I found that I was doing fine without Vile Bastion.

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goatcheese61 wrote:

The reason you take Vile Bastion even on low life isn't the stun immunity, its the sustain and tankiness it provides. The base regen plus the amount on kill is what keeps you topped off, without it you have no way to quickly regen back up if you miss a block on a big hit.

I haven't played Occultist (or an ES caster) since 3.4m when it still gave +150ES (that got multiplied by all +ES on tree) and reg was capped at 25%/second back then afair, so bear with my question:


Is 40 flat regen that great? Should be 20 with Wicked Ward, so like 0,25%/sec ? Sounds underwhelming for an Ascendency or do I miss some (up?-)scaling ?

(The stun immunity is the selling point ofc, but I was wondering if the buff from last patch was really making a dent, esp if you got stun immunity from Chayula)

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Shakiko wrote:

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goatcheese61 wrote:

The reason you take Vile Bastion even on low life isn't the stun immunity, its the sustain and tankiness it provides. The base regen plus the amount on kill is what keeps you topped off, without it you have no way to quickly regen back up if you miss a block on a big hit.

Is 40 flat regen that great? Should be 20 with Wicked Ward, so like 0,25%/sec ? Sounds underwhelming for an Ascendency or do I miss some (up?-)scaling ?

(The stun immunity is the selling point ofc, but I was wondering if the buff from last patch was really making a dent, esp if you got stun immunity from Chayula)

Yep, that was pretty similar thoughts to why I didn't take it. Cinderswallow + cluster can give ES on kill, Chayula gives the stun immunity so you're only left with the regen. If you're concerned with the regen I see some other players taking Zealots Oath as it's a single point off the tree.

I don't feel like Vile Bastion is worth it as LL due to the above.

More than happy to hear otherwise if I'm missing something.