No bottleneck still below 60 FPS most f the time

I do not understand how this game works. During blight encounters I have sometimes even below 20 FPS. Now I started some more monitoring to find what is actually wrong with my HW. To my surprise, non of HW was bottlenecking.





My setup:
Intel Core i7 2600K clocked to 4.4 Ghz
16 GB DDR3
GTX 970 (core clocked to 1340 Mhz and memory to 3550 Mhz)
Game is on SSD



Just to clear things out:
I have Maximum performance set in Nvidia control panel.
I have turned off windows energy saving mode for PCI-E slots.



Also the game has extensive memory leaks:





So what should I do to increase my FPS ? Buying new HW wont help I guess and playing this 10 FPS slide show is not fun and it is actually hurting my eyes.





EDIT: If you wanna post in this topic, please make sure your answer has a credible source or proper data to judge correctness of your aswer. Ty.
Last edited by Dakado#4348 on Sep 27, 2019, 6:50:32 PM
Last bumped on Oct 4, 2019, 1:20:32 PM
May I ask how large your ggpk file is?
Last edited by PunkBuzter#1041 on Sep 27, 2019, 5:29:03 PM
Your ddr3 and that gpu is a bottleneck, especially if you are trying to push high/max settings at 1080p.
No rest for the wicked.
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Daiena wrote:
Your ddr3 and that gpu is a bottleneck, especially if you are trying to push high/max settings at 1080p.


Uh, that's not a bottleneck... It's actually a fit.
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Daiena wrote:
Your ddr3 and that gpu is a bottleneck, especially if you are trying to push high/max settings at 1080p.





Please, if you have no experience do not answer.

Gpu cannot be bottleneck when the gpu usage is not 99%, DDR3 bottleneck is also nonsense since only 2.8 GB of VRAM is used so DDR3 is not even used to swap out VRAM.
Please do read up on tech before answering. The amount doesn't matter if the tech is outdated.
Back in late 90s one of the CPU OC world records belonged to a single core single thread intel celeron - over 4 ghz in raw numbers, it was still performing worse than stock speed 3.0 ghz regular off the shelf pentium.
Resource utilization doesn't matter neither, especially for GPU, CPUs are the ones who usually draw 100% if they don't have enough to give. GPUs can sit at 1/2 of what they got and still crap out, you basically have an equivalent to gforce 1060, and while high end 1060 TIs aren't that bad, due to aging architecture, they won't perform nearly as good as newer generations.
P.S. read up on ddr3 vs ddr4. Idgaf if you have 8 gigs, 16 or 32, it's slow in comparison.
No rest for the wicked.
Last edited by Daiena#7638 on Sep 27, 2019, 10:47:13 PM
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Daiena wrote:
Please do read up on tech before answering. The amount doesn't matter if the tech is outdated.
Back in late 90s one of the CPU OC world records belonged to a single core single thread intel celeron - over 4 ghz in raw numbers, it was still performing worse than stock speed 3.0 ghz regular off the shelf pentium.
Resource utilization doesn't matter neither, especially for GPU, CPUs are the ones who usually draw 100% if they don't have enough to give. GPUs can sit at 1/2 of what they got and still crap out, you basically have an equivalent to gforce 1060, and while high end 1060 TIs aren't that bad, due to aging architecture, they won't perform nearly as good as newer generations.
P.S. read up on ddr3 vs ddr4. Idgaf if you have 8 gigs, 16 or 32, it's slow in comparison.



My 2600K has same Passmark score as i7 6700 (around 10 000). So the thing about CPU performance is flat out nonsense.


Non of my CPU cores is running at 100% as this games has some kind of multithread (not sure how much is the main thread splitted into more cores). If the CPU was bottlneck at least on of the cores would be used up 100% all the time.


Again, if GPU is not used up 100% all the time (when vsync is off) something must be slowing it down, but it is not a CPU in this case.



For example, when playing GTA V on Ultra, my CPU usage is 70-80%, GPU 99% all the time, and I have around 90 FPS. PoE, low details 30 FPS :D Something is wrong ...
Last edited by Dakado#4348 on Sep 28, 2019, 3:56:07 AM
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Daiena wrote:
Please do read up on tech before answering. The amount doesn't matter if the tech is outdated.
Back in late 90s one of the CPU OC world records belonged to a single core single thread intel celeron - over 4 ghz in raw numbers, it was still performing worse than stock speed 3.0 ghz regular off the shelf pentium.
Resource utilization doesn't matter neither, especially for GPU, CPUs are the ones who usually draw 100% if they don't have enough to give. GPUs can sit at 1/2 of what they got and still crap out, you basically have an equivalent to gforce 1060, and while high end 1060 TIs aren't that bad, due to aging architecture, they won't perform nearly as good as newer generations.
P.S. read up on ddr3 vs ddr4. Idgaf if you have 8 gigs, 16 or 32, it's slow in comparison.


You're actually the one who needs to read up on tech... A bottleneck occurs when one components slows down another, stalling the performance, exactly like the neck of a bottle.
His GPU does not slow down his CPU, his CPU does not slow down his GPU. And when you say his 16GB of DDR3 is a bottleneck, what do you actually mean? 16GB is pretty much a standard today, you can run 99.999% of all the games out there maxed with that much memory.

I'm having an FX6350 + RX570 + 16GB DDR3 RAM myself, the CPU is my bottleneck, anyone with a decent knowledge of how PCs work would know.
And I'm having 110fps in PoE.

i7 2600k + GTX970 + 16GB RAM is a perfect condition. If anything a bottleneck in his system it's if he's using an HDD as main storage device.
I would actually try something called "ggpk defrag"
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/28060/page/1

It's an old program from 2012 (imagine the game still has the same problems in 2019) which cleans the ggpk file. My ggpk file was 27GB large and after defrag it came down to 20.4GB and both my ping and FPS problems went away... There's so much junk in that file that just stays in there, I even talked to someone in Global chat which said he runs that tool once every league launch because the game just gets that messed up.
But, then we have those who never suffers from anything. But I can't imagine having junk files would be good for anyone.

What's funny is that as all these years have passed, GGG has still to this day not implemented anything that cleans the ggpk file... Hence why performance gets worse with every patch they release until the point where it just becomes unplayable and people have to either reinstall the game or leave.
GGG cleans their own ggpk before they release it but they dont' seem to understand that our ggpk file still holds old junk even if it's not being used anymore.

7GB of junk was removed for me, and that's from an installation that's only 2 weeks older than Blight (that is like what, a month now?).
Last edited by PunkBuzter#1041 on Sep 28, 2019, 6:23:49 AM
Junk in the GGPK file actually explains everything. I once got a DLL error in PoE that I only ever had in Skyrim when running "unclean" mods containing junk where running Tes5Edit properly solved the problem.

Long time ago I thought it was strange how GGG and people within this community keeps blaming the ISP for every ping or performance problem anyone has, and how everyone with a problem keeps saying the exact same thing "it's just PoE".
This lead me to believe there is something wrong with PoE, thousands of people and 7 years of similar issues just can't be wrong!
But to top it off, why would only PoE be affected? It doesn't make sense.

So... My DLL error combined with 7 years of frustration and thousands of similar reports - A guy replies to me with a tool and BAAM, problem resolved.
Once all my problems was resolved with that defrag you can only ever imagine my relieve when all I ever needed for all these years was a stupid tool. And I was right, there was something wrong with the game, it wasn't my ISP as everyone told me all this time. Everyone assumed, but I f'ing knew!

Why on earth does GGG not make this tool built-in into their Launcher so it runs after every patch automatically for everyone??? If it's not because for solving problems, it's for saving space! 27GB>20GB
Last edited by PunkBuzter#1041 on Sep 28, 2019, 6:42:54 AM

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