Please remove lightning golem wrath

Lightning golem grant additional lightning damage. It makes lightning golem be unplayable by Elementalist.

If I use avatar of fire to avoid its additional lightning damage, I can't shock enemies by Elementalist's Beacon of Ruin.

If I choose not using avatar of fire, I can't apply EE on enemies.

Let's see Lightning golem usage in ninja.

I think you should know increase lightning golem's damage doesn't fix the problem.

Then what buff would you suggest they offer to compensate for the lost damage? 6% to 9% attack and cast speed isn't enough, but it's arguably also too generic to simply buff.

The intent with Lightning Golem is it's supposed to be different from other golems due to its aura. That gives it some other uses to consider with a build, both good and bad.

It's a good thing that not all skills, abilities, items etc work equally well with each other. EE clearly isn't supposed to be something you can just tack onto any build or any skill for free damage. If it doesn't work well with Lightning Golem, then maybe don't use one of them.

Also, all Elementalists can shock with Beacon of Ruin, because it comes after Shaper of Desolation.

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

It's a good thing that not all skills, abilities, items etc work equally well with each other. EE clearly isn't supposed to be something you can just tack onto any build or any skill for free damage. If it doesn't work well with Lightning Golem, then maybe don't use one of them.
Also, all Elementalists can shock with Beacon of Ruin, because it comes after Shaper of Desolation.

It's not a good thing that you designed a skill but NO ONE use it.

They had tuned flame/lightning golem's damage into EE. You wouldn't like their damage without EE.

Shaper of Desolation is unstable. Every 14sec, you have 8sec unable to shock if you use avatar of fire.

That's why the usage of lightning golem is 0.0% on ninja.

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smtad wrote:

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GusTheCrocodile wrote:

It's a good thing that not all skills, abilities, items etc work equally well with each other. EE clearly isn't supposed to be something you can just tack onto any build or any skill for free damage. If it doesn't work well with Lightning Golem, then maybe don't use one of them.
Also, all Elementalists can shock with Beacon of Ruin, because it comes after Shaper of Desolation.

It's not a good thing that you designed a skill but NO ONE use it.

They had tuned flame/lightning golem's damage into EE. You wouldn't like their damage without EE.

Shaper of Desolation is unstable. Every 14sec, you have 8sec unable to shock if you use avatar of fire.

That's why the usage of lightning golem is 0.0% on ninja.

So just use a different golem, what even is this thread lmao

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

So just use a different golem, what even is this thread lmao

You can go to other threads and tell them not to complaint melee attack/self cast/trade/labrybth.... bala bala. Because as your LOGIC, just don't use them can solve any problems.

i like the lightning golem how it is, i don't like elementalist how it is.

GGG please completely rework elementalist.

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smtad wrote:

You can go to other threads and tell them not to complaint melee attack/self cast/trade/labrybth.... bala bala. Because as your LOGIC, just don't use them can solve any problems.

I don't even know what you're trying to say here.

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smtad wrote:

It's not a good thing that you designed a skill but NO ONE use it.

I guess it's lucky that's not true then. I mean for starters, that '0.0%' figure is only looking at 5+ linked gems, not all skill usage.

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smtad wrote:

They had tuned flame/lightning golem's damage into EE. You wouldn't like their damage without EE.

Have GGG actually said they tuned the damage of these skills around the assumption of people using them with EE? I ask because that...seems unlikely, and is clearly an issue not limited to Summon Lightning Golem anyway, let alone this one spell that golem has. No skill should only be effective with EE.

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smtad wrote:

Shaper of Desolation is unstable. Every 14sec, you have 8sec unable to shock if you use avatar of fire.

I am aware of how it works, I was just correcting a false statement. If you'd like to shock more reliably, you're welcome to not take Avatar of Fire. That you're finding there's a tradeoff to be made between convenient shocks and maximum EE efficiency from your lightning golem is not a problem, it's just a normal part of build planning.

To be clear, I am not making the statement that the lightning golem is perfect and needs no adjustment. I wouldn't know, I haven't studied any data to say either way. I'm just saying that the golem having this particular spell isn't a problem. Some skills being more convenient partners for EE than others is normal.

I'm starting to think this thread is just some super lazy trolling.