Exalted Orbs

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comeoutandplay wrote:

We initially announced that looting is free-for-all in Path of Exile. Players would be able to see and pick up any items that dropped.

It's important to us that Path of Exile has a cut-throat feel where players are not only competing against monsters, but also their fellow players. We do not feel it is an option to arbitrarily hide items from players who have not been allocated them.

As we saw here and here, many players really objected to this.

Several legitimate problems with free-for-all looting were raised:
- Ranged players are unable to get to the items in time.
- Items might just get scooped up by one player with substantially lower latency than the other players.

Over the past few months we've thought long and hard about this topic, and have come up with a system that we feel captures the cut-throat feel that we're trying to go for, but helps mitigate the valid complaints.

We're proposing the following system:
- All white text items are free-for-all.
- All magic/rare/unique/currency/gem items are allocated to a nearby player for a very small amount of time.
- All players can see the item, and a countdown of how much time remains until it's available to anyone is shown.
- The allocation time is intended to be very small (enough time to compensate for a little latency, reaction time and travel distance). We're thinking a base time of something in the order of 1 second when standing next to the item.
- The time would be increased by the time it takes for the character to run to the item. An item allocated to a ranged player might unallocate after two seconds, for example.
- It's important that the time is low enough that the player can only get the item if they are paying attention and make an effort to immediately grab it.
- The allocation times can be lower or non-existent in hardcore or cut-throat leagues.

Players who wanted an allocated looting system will hopefully be happy that this system mitigates item loss due to latency and travel distance.

Players who wanted a free-for-all looting system will hopefully be pleased - with this system they can take any item they want if the allocated player is not paying attention to the drops.

This is a concept based on feedback only. It's not locked in stone, but we like the direction it's going in.

What do you guys think about this suggestion? Please don't just post "allocated sucks", or "I won't play if it's free-for-all".

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b15h09 wrote:

Seriously, do we need to get into name calling?

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Le0wn wrote:

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE WRONG MAKING A VENDOR THAT TRADES CURRENT ORB VALUES UP AND DOWN??? just one worthwhile answer people caman

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Le0wn wrote:

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Sneakypaw wrote:

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Le0wn wrote:

I would love a mods opinion on this, or a reason why. There are no reasons that anyone would want to get rid of exalted orbs or GCP right now. The past 3 days I can't find a single exalted orb for sale under 19 chaos. So here's my question, IF you want people to enjoy the game and be able to craft what they want, why not create a vendor that has updated values every month or so (according to avg price)? That way the market is still dictating prices of currency, but scalpers can't horde currency and manipulate the value. If you don't believe me look at trade chat, there is more WTT for currency than there is for anything else, which is a giant waste of time. If this is not going to change id love to know. Thanks for your time !

Sooooo, It's not like they don't trade Exalts, but that you don't have enough currency to pay them.

You have completely missed the point of the paragraph above.

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Le0wn wrote:

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE WRONG MAKING A VENDOR THAT TRADES CURRENT ORB VALUES UP AND DOWN??? just one worthwhile answer people caman

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b15h09 wrote:

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Le0wn wrote:

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE WRONG MAKING A VENDOR THAT TRADES CURRENT ORB VALUES UP AND DOWN??? just one worthwhile answer people caman

Price fixing through vendors would create a price at which you could neither undercut, nor overprice from, essentially destroying the free market. May as well say 100 copper = 1 silver, 100 silver = 1 gold. Kinda the antithesis of what GGG is trying to do with a player driven economy.

Even if you updated the values monthly at the guidance of the community, it would require integrity in the community not to create multiple accounts to artificially alter rates for personal profit. You'd see armies of bots creating accounts to fix prices at rates that would be beneficial to those with a hoard of certain currency (probably RMT sights). A free market has to be free to operate in a healthy manner. If you allow any form of price fixing, you're just inviting cartel behavior.

As to the efficacy of Keynesian economics, if you think a 98% debasement in the value of a dollar 'worked', then yeah, it worked.